Which HPA Tank/Reg?

[chinstrap]

So I've decided to scrap my plans of running CO2 since myself and the guys I play outlaw with just got adopted by our local field to set up their woods section and help run it. They have a compressor out there that fills both 3000 and 4500 PSI too, so I guess I'm all set.

My dilemma has now shifted to which kind of tank I should get.

After searching a bit on here and doing some other research, I was leaning towards a Crossfire 92/4500 tank on account of reading good things about them and it being only .5 inches longer and .75 inches larger in diameter than their 68/4500 tank. I figure the 92 CI would be better just to have in case I went someplace where I couldn't get it filled since the size difference is marginal.

I have run into some conflicting information though: some people say that X-valves don't run on pressures less than 850 PSI and apparently the new fixed Crossfire tanks only put out 800 PSI, but at the same time, other Mag owners have recommended them.

I was also considering looking into adjustable HP tanks, but I can't seem to find any out there (and I don't think the field's shop carries them, since they're mostly speedball and LP spaceguns at this point in time). Any recommendations? I'd especially appreciate input from people who run Mags with X-valves off the new fixed 800 PSI Crossfire tanks if anybody even does.

For reference, I'll be running a stock Tac-One. I was originally going to use CO2 with a Classic valve and Palmer's Stab, but was having some difficulties. I've decided to just keep the X-valve in the event that I wanted a better ROF and/or a lighter marker, because I probably will (may decide to go both ways with speed and woods). I should also probably buy the tank from the local shop in light of the recent events and how it would be total *** for me to go somewhere else.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

[robnix]

So I've decided to scrap my plans of running CO2 since myself and the guys I play outlaw with just got adopted by our local field to set up their woods section and help run it. They have a compressor out there that fills both 3000 and 4500 PSI too, so I guess I'm all set.

My dilemma has now shifted to which kind of tank I should get.

After searching a bit on here and doing some other research, I was leaning towards a Crossfire 92/4500 tank on account of reading good things about them and it being only .5 inches longer and .75 inches larger in diameter than their 68/4500 tank. I figure the 92 CI would be better just to have in case I went someplace where I couldn't get it filled since the size difference is marginal.

I have run into some conflicting information though: some people say that X-valves don't run on pressures less than 850 PSI and apparently the new fixed Crossfire tanks only put out 800 PSI, but at the same time, other Mag owners have recommended them.

I was also considering looking into adjustable HP tanks, but I can't seem to find any out there (and I don't think the field's shop carries them, since they're mostly speedball and LP spaceguns at this point in time). Any recommendations? I'd especially appreciate input from people who run Mags with X-valves off the new fixed 800 PSI Crossfire tanks if anybody even does.

For reference, I'll be running a stock Tac-One. I was originally going to use CO2 with a Classic valve and Palmer's Stab, but was having some difficulties. I've decided to just keep the X-valve in the event that I wanted a better ROF and/or a lighter marker, because I probably will (may decide to go both ways with speed and woods). I should also probably buy the tank from the local shop in light of the recent events and how it would be total *** for me to go somewhere else.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

I have a Crossfire 92/4500 and couldn't be happier with it. I use it on both an emag and an RT Pro that have X-Valves with no issues at all.

[chinstrap]

I have a Crossfire 92/4500 and couldn't be happier with it. I use it on both an emag and an RT Pro that have X-Valves with no issues at all.

Is it one of the newer 800 PSI ones?

[robnix]

Is it one of the newer 800 PSI ones?

AFAIK, I bought it used, but a very new used.

[anthrakz]

I have a Max Flow and an AGD Flatline 3K, both are set @ 800psi. I have yet to encounter an input psi related problem. I also have another preset thats 800psi output and I' haven't run into a problem with it also. All 3 tanks have been used with a Retro valve, Emag valve, and an X valve.

[chinstrap]

I have a Max Flow and an AGD Flatline 3K, both are set @ 800psi. I have yet to encounter an input psi related problem. I also have another preset thats 800psi output and I' haven't run into a problem with it also. All 3 tanks have been used with a Retro valve, Emag valve, and an X valve.

Heh. So far I'm getting the idea that whoever said that X-valves don't run on less than 850 PSI was full of crap. I forget who it was though.

[MaD_SaM]

[warbeak2099]

Heh. So far I'm getting the idea that whoever said that X-valves don't run on less than 850 PSI was full of crap. I forget who it was though.

Yup they're full of crap. You can actually run a mag at like 700. Just won't recharge as fast, but at 800 on a mechanical... you won't have recharge issues. Especially not with a Crossfire reg.

[chinstrap]

Ah, but where would I go about finding one of these Centerflag Dynaflow tanks? And how much do they usually cost? I haven't had much luck looking them up.

[Shirow]

Flatline, flatline, flatline! Get any old tank and AGD will throw on a flatline reg for $170ish.

Will an X-Valve *run* at 800psi? Sure, sure... it will work. Will it be so fun to shoot you will want to kill yourself? No.

If a Crossfire is your price limit, do it! HPA rocks compared to CO2 and X-valves are fun.

If you are looking for a good adjustable, a flatline will do you no wrong. I shoot -/+2 on a bad day w/ my flatline and I have the pressure set for the max bounce I can get without any double shooting.

It's a beautiful thing.

[mpsd]

[d4m4don3]

Ah, but where would I go about finding one of these Centerflag Dynaflow tanks? And how much do they usually cost? I haven't had much luck looking them up.

Brand new a dynaflow will cost you about 350-400. Used you can get it for around 150 on up depending on the version. I know centerflag was having a sale on the dynaflow regs by itself rebuilt for 75 dollars, If you already have a tank, Id suggest going for this.

Call them.

630-553-2611

[MaD_SaM]

Ah, but where would I go about finding one of these Centerflag Dynaflow tanks? And how much do they usually cost? I haven't had much luck looking them up.

Well I bought mine off of Back2Integrety. But when I was in the process of purchasing this great tank. I got my information from here: http://www.centerflagproducts.com/

I went to check the site but I see nothing on the Dynaflow system. Sorry

[chinstrap]

Well as of right now, I'm planning on buying from the local shop since he just adopted us; I suppose I'll have to see what he has there first. I do know he carries Crossfires though, so it's looking like that's going to be what I get. My price limit is right around $200, so adjustables are probably out. Eh...I don't really need to shoot obscenely fast anyway.

As far as size goes, I always wanted a little more extension on my 20 oz. CO2 tank, since I use my tank as a stock. 20 oz. tanks measure 10 inches, so I'm thinking the 13 inches of the 92 Crossfire should be perfect. Weight isn't an issue since I can always just get stronger
Besides, I'm used to playing with a Tippmann Custom Pro so it couldn't be THAT bad. Figured that instead of upgrading with the hope of trying to make a crappy marker better, I'd just get a better marker that didn't need to be upgraded. And I hate the front-heaviness. Compared to that stock marker on CO2, I have a feeling that my Tac-One will be so fun to shoot I'll want to kill myself anyway (it already feels 80 times better holding it; much more balanced and fits my hands like a glove AND there's a foregrip right where I cradle the Tippmann's hose when I shoot - how convenient!).

I went to check the site but I see nothing on the Dynaflow system. Sorry

Yeah, I went there too a while back, but didn't see anything either.

[phizz]

another idea get a cheap hp steel tank instead of a fiberwrapped. I have seen used ones with crossfire regs for about $50. Then Buy a Scuba tank ($100-150 used)and fill station ($30-40ish) and use that to top up when you run out. Thats what I do. I often play bushball with my mags and I always have my scuba with me to top up dont' need to worry about having a field handy.