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  • Marrr
    Registered User
    • Jan 2007
    • 86

    #1

    Help(Xvalve,on/off,lowers)!?

    Hi there all.....and thanks for reading and helping me!


    I have this spec - Xvalve,lv10,ule e-mag rail,and recently purchased - e-mag lowers :)
    I know what you will say - need correct length on/off pin(.712)for correct lowers working.
    Also here in forums people say,that there is possibility to cut
    on/off!So,i would like to mill my pin to this length,because i
    suggesting,that i have standard xvalve on/off pin - .750

    I know i will sound noobish write now,but i have file ...but i don't have this instrument which will show to me exact length off my on/off. I have just mm/cm and inch measurer.

    As far my AO search goes e-mag lowers can work with a little bit more then .712 and a little bit less than that.So,there is no need for one exact length of this on/off pin.

    And now my request - could anyone tell me - how much is this - .712 in millimeters?And how much in mm is - .750.It would be enough if you can say just approximately!?
    My on/off is - 1 cm and 7 mm long,and i don't know - it is to short or to long.

    I just need to understand why my lowers don't work in e and hybrid mode.If there is to long on/off, then i will cut it,if there wil be to short one,i will buy new one.
    And Yes,my electronics work,because when i slide off my body and
    xvalve,i put my finger on the sear,slightly press on it,sear going a little down,and i put the trigger and it react normally in e and hybrid mode.So,if you look at it like with the normal gravitation thinking - there is to short on/off pin,because when i screw valve on my gun, on/off does not do what my fingers did - push sear down a bit.And that could mean the on/off is to short! But since all troubles, which i can find here,was because of on/off being to LONG,i ask for your advise.

    Yes,and when i gas my gun up,the gun shoot only in mech mode.Also the
    gun setup has been purchased used.I just put lowers on it.

    So my AO friends,as you probably understand,I'm from Europe ...and
    shipping take lot of time,and i would be grateful if there could be
    possibility to fix all the thinks, without ordering one small crazy
    part of my new lovely project.

    Regards,
    Rihards.
  • Spider-TW
    U R techno-literate!

    • Oct 2006
    • 3554

    #2
    1 inch = 25.400 mm

    1 cm, 7mm (17 mm) = 0.669 in

    0.712 inches = 18.085 mm

    0.750 inches = 19.050 mm

    Looks like yours is a little short. I wouldn't think that would keep you from shooting in e mode if you are working in mech mode, but I'm not much of an e-magger

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    • Marrr
      Registered User
      • Jan 2007
      • 86

      #3
      !!!!

      Originally posted by Spider-TW
      1 inch = 25.400 mm

      1 cm, 7mm (17 mm) = 0.669 in

      0.712 inches = 18.085 mm

      0.750 inches = 19.050 mm

      Looks like yours is a little short. I wouldn't think that would keep you from shooting in e mode if you are working in mech mode, but I'm not much of an e-magger

      Thanks for really quick respond and your measuring!

      I already mill on/off pin till the 17mm and i was starting from 19mm.
      i just hope,that i did not mill the pin to much
      So far No changes The same performance with all pin length = Gun shooting only in mech mode

      Regard,
      Rihards.

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #4
        Check your battery voltage. Weak batteries are common problems that can be hard to tell, since everything appears to work.

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        • Marrr
          Registered User
          • Jan 2007
          • 86

          #5
          ...

          Originally posted by Spider-TW
          Check your battery voltage. Weak batteries are common problems that can be hard to tell, since everything appears to work.
          I stripp the mareker and check battery strenght with my finger again.and feel like 50 horse power!I put my friends finger on te sear and erything works like charm!!!Even i was able to ramp trigger and listen fast olenoid clicks like about 15 bps :)
          So....i think battery is fine....
          What is wrong....i just don't know which way to look anymore

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          • Walrus
            X-Mag baby!!
            • Jan 2005
            • 317

            #6
            I think your problem is that you are using the stock RT on/off from the X-valve and not the E-Mag on/off with the quad oring on top. This is the key to running the Mag in E mode, not just the pin length. Without the correct on/off you won't get it to work right.

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            • Marrr
              Registered User
              • Jan 2007
              • 86

              #7
              Originally posted by Walrus
              I think your problem is that you are using the stock RT on/off from the X-valve and not the E-Mag on/off with the quad oring on top. This is the key to running the Mag in E mode, not just the pin length. Without the correct on/off you won't get it to work right.
              That's other good point...thanks!

              Do Rt on/off with quad o-ring will work for e-mag?

              Regards...

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              • Walrus
                X-Mag baby!!
                • Jan 2005
                • 317

                #8
                To take an educated guess I would say the stock RT on/off should be the same as the E-Mag on/off body wise. The quad oring and the shorter pin should do the trick to convert it from an RT to an EMag on/off, but don't hold me to that as I have never tried it. I am just looking at the way they are both setup and that is all I can think of.

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                • Marrr
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 86

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Walrus
                  To take an educated guess I would say the stock RT on/off should be the same as the E-Mag on/off body wise. The quad oring and the shorter pin should do the trick to convert it from an RT to an EMag on/off, but don't hold me to that as I have never tried it. I am just looking at the way they are both setup and that is all I can think of.
                  Yeah...you wrigth...only difference is between two o-rings and quad o-ring on the on/off top.
                  But i can't believe,that this quad will make miracle, and if i will put it on my on/off,e-mode and hybrid will start to work on my mag!!!

                  Regards.

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                  • phizz
                    Registered User

                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1353

                    #10
                    check your noid. My mag wouldn't work for the longest time because the Noid was too weak. I was lucky and had a spare kicking around. Also check out this website and download the manuel, lots of good info on tuning an emag. http://www.niedtech.com/index.php

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                    • Marrr
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 86

                      #11
                      Originally posted by phizz
                      check your noid.
                      HOW?

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                      • phizz
                        Registered User

                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1353

                        #12
                        doy ou have a votl meter, need to connect it to each of the wire to see if it reads around 3.0

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                        • phizz
                          Registered User

                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1353

                          #13
                          here is where I got help http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214183

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                          • Marrr
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 86

                            #14
                            Originally posted by phizz
                            PHIZZ - when you have this noid issue,it was possible to you test your gun in e-mode like i do - with finger pushing?Because when i take ody and valve of and press manually my sear down(plays where must on/off pin work) my mag work in e-mode.So,i definately think there i everything ok with all electronics and with this part which comes with e-mag lowers.
                            Of course, when i get chance i will try to read noid voltage....thanks for advance.

                            Regards,
                            Rihards.

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                            • Marrr
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 86

                              #15
                              So...i check solenoid and battery voltage -
                              Noid - goes till 3,3(depend how fast i pull the trigger)
                              Battery - 18,2.

                              Seems everything fine!?

                              But most crazy think is - i find out,( without the air),that solenoid clicks and trigger
                              works in e and hybrid mode when i turn the gun upside down!!!So i got
                              a chance to play with my trigger and make some adjustments. After
                              playing some time, i feel,that the battery and solenoid
                              getting a little warm Is this normally happening also with your
                              e-mags???

                              Also...all this does not help me to find solution for my problem - gun still shoot only in mech mode!

                              ANY help please.......i think i check almost everything....and i still don't have solution


                              Regards,
                              Rihards.

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