electropneumatic help

[questionful]

http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/solenoids.html

Click the links on the left!

Then see examples of how they have been implemented in some popular markers:

http://www.zdspb.com/tech/misc/animations.html

Most solenoids are 4-ways, so they have one input, two outputs, and two exhausts. If it has two outputs, it can be used to drive a spool/ram (or whatever you want to call it) forward and back. Then there are noids that have only one output, which are usually used to drive a spool in the direction opposite of its bias. Such as an MPA-3.

What kind of "ram" (are they called actuators?) are you planning on using?

[p8ntbal4me]

What is the max power output for the universal t board?

I think you mean maximum input voltage,... and that answer is 30volts,.. same as the morlock.

i have figured out what noid i need to use. but it will require some power to use it.

If your noid is more that 6volts,.. your gonna need a capacitor.

~ P8nt

[questionful]

I have a question. Do MAC solenoids need a capacitor? Would they work better with one? I believe they take close to 5 volts.

[p8ntbal4me]

I have a question. Do MAC solenoids need a capacitor? Would they work better with one? I believe they take close to 5 volts.

Depends on the series your using and the CPS you want to achive.

If you want to break 20+bps at any time in the life of the marker,... you will need a capacitor

~ P8nt

[Chris Nearchos]

hmmm

actually, i knew what the max input is for power. but i am actually talking about the out put on the noid power. (power from the board to the noid)
-Chris

[p8ntbal4me]

actually, i knew what the max input is for power. but i am actually talking about the out put on the noid power. (power from the board to the noid)
-Chris

Its the same voltage that you run into the board from the power input.

The UTB switches power just like the Morlock does,.. so if you run 2volts in, you get a max of 2volts on your solenoid wires. Likewise, if you use an 18volt AGD battery, your getting 18volts on the other end of the solenoid.

~ P8nt

[Chris Nearchos]

???Question????

interesting. so the board doesnt break it down in anyway to a smaller power out? not even for the eyes?

-Chris

[p8ntbal4me]

interesting. so the board doesnt break it down in anyway to a smaller power out? not even for the eyes?

-Chris

Not for the solenoid.

The real deal with the Morlock was the fact that it didnt take in a voltage and crank it down,.. it just switched it. Thats why when I started to use the Chaos Boards from Vapor Works,.. I ditched them,... its also the same problem Ryan (Coolhand) ran into that they forgot to tell him about the boards when he ordered them. The Chaos boards take in a 9volt source, and break it down to 5.5volts.

The UTB switches whatever you run into it. Which leaves you, the installer, the ability to customize the remaining components of the install without having problems with voltages on each component.

Example: If you install a UTB in a hyperframe (which takes 9volts) and you decide you want to install it into an E-Mag (which takes 18volts or 16.8volts if you wanna be exact) you wont have problems with power draws in the event that you want to power a warp feed as well. It was designed to work with just about everything.

The components that REQUIRE a specific power supply (ie: the eyes), they have a regulated power output. The extra trigger output (in the event you want to use the UTB in an E-Mag with a HES) has a 5+voltage preset as well.

~ P8nt

[Chris Nearchos]

P8nt --> that is great music to my ears. now all i need to do is find which noid to use for my aplication....then i can release a nice treat to the AO community.

-Chris

[p8ntbal4me]

P8nt --> that is great music to my ears. now all i need to do is find which noid to use for my aplication....then i can release a nice treat to the AO community.

-Chris

PM me again Chris,.... I can give you some pointers based on your application for the solenoids.

~ P8nt

[zipity_Bop]

I found a HEB1OF3(101W) will this work for my noid?

[Spider-TW]

If space isn't an issue, there are a lot of intimidator frenzy boards floating around, along with the HEA series humphrey solenoids. The HEA's are for the double acting timmy ram, you know the boards match, and you can find some relatively cheap.

The used boards often need contact cleaner sprayed in the switch and the heavily used solenoids like very thin oil. There are some boards that haven't been used much at all, having been replaced right away with an upgrade.

Just a thought.

[p8ntbal4me]

I dont know if anyone in here has this down yet,.. but when looking to do an EP install:

The BEST results are had when you have the shortest distance of air travel from the solenoid to the ram. This can be done with a manifold.

The next best thing is a hose with barbs.

Most of you guys know this,... but its hard to do when your building something from scratch with pre-made parts.

~ P8nt