gun idea

[ScatterPlot]

I'm confused, paintball doesn't have any valves that are 3000 PSI (except for filling tanks, and those are pretty hefty). Regulators do not shut the flow on and off like a switch (well they do but you don't control it with an external lever).

[Rokudon]

i'm talking about tank valves, if they can handle 3000psi, why cant they be modified to withstand 100-900psi and be light?

[ScatterPlot]

The tank FILLING valves? Cause the valves on the tanks themselves do not take 3K.

[Rokudon]

LOL ok this is getting confusing...... ok i'm gonna try this again, if not i'm adding u on messenger and doing this in a quicker manner... anyway, i'm saying tank on/offs, some people claim they're light, and you yourself stated that they are light, but not light enough for a trigger application.
so if you modify this on/off to take the resistance of 100-900psi only to reduce the force required to use it, would it be possible in this manner? or in my case, can it be applied to a 3-4way so it can provide output to 2 lines and take 2 inputs (again, diff thread, this is not my design)

[ScatterPlot]

Tank valves already take 900 psi or so. There's no modding necessary. But maybe this will help. There are a lot of kinds of tank valves, maybe tell me which one you are imagining.

[Rokudon]

i'm talking about tank on/offs on HPA systems, unless they come after the regulator... and if they do... ignore my last series of posts
in anycase, whats the max pressure a regular 4way can take? is it still capable of firing a ball at that pressure?

[noahyay]

i own a mag- no need to defend them

basically it would be lp so that the trigger pull could lighten up.
it is simmilar to a mag but the parts could be less unique- aka a clippard 5 way valve as the
trigger.-would need a very very complex system of hoses.
this would let people be able to replace trigger pulls

if it's possible to have a gun running at 100psi then you could use cocker hose, otherwize it would need to be larger hose.

just for kicks- the mQ ebladed mag design is the best ive ver seen. insted of having a valve it has a 2 way soleniod (like on an eblade but 2 way) and it opens for a certain number of milliseconds for velocity. this is a gun that consists of 3 parts: body, bolt, and soleniod. simple and effective-not to mention the trigger pull on an eblade. this could probably be made by somebody with a lot of $. buy a high flow 2 way valve and hook it up to a microswitch. then have a hose that attaches to the lvl X and a hose to air.

[ScatterPlot]

i'm talking about tank on/offs on HPA systems, unless they come after the regulator... and if they do... ignore my last series of posts

OK that's the problem, just a little confusion. On a HPA tank the valve comes after the regulator, or is sometimes a screw type thingie that lets you just turn down the reg enough to turn it off. Others just have a pin-depressor valve thing like a CO2 tank.






And I wasn't trying to "defend" anything, I was just saying that that was the basic system that a mag uses. I understand now what you were saying, but I think that the LP thing would require too high of an air flow to be practical. But hey man, if you can make it and it works more power to ya. Usually when someone tells me something wont work I want to make it all the more, just to see for myself. So there could be some way of making this work and all, and now that I get what you are suggesting then, well, obviously I understand. But again, I think making the mag without it being all in one assembly would simply give lower efficiency and all due to the higher number of hoses, travel for stuff, etc. than normal, so you might be just trying to reinvent the wheel. But whatever, good luck

[Rokudon]

lol ok then, ignore the last series of posts i made, debates about useless nonsense! lol anyway, again this is not my design but it runs of the same principles as mine (4way to fire/refill dump chamber on marker) so might as well get it solved here. so if you made a custom 4way that would handle these pressures (i'm thinking around 800psi in mine, his is probably going to be half that or less), how big would it be? not to mention how heavy would the trigger pull be... you know i might as well draw in the pneus into my pic and post it...