Micro switch eyes?

[ojhspyro89]

How come nobody has used a micro chip built into the body of a gun for a ball detent/ eye? It would work really good and work with absolutly any paint u put in it. Itd be cheap too.

I was thinking like making a groove where the body of it sat and stuff. Then the ball falls down on the switch activating it and that lets the gun shoot. Pretty self explanitory really. You could use a 25 gram or something but if u cant get any lighter i dunno if itd work. But itd work if there were a stack of balls on top of the one ball probably.


Input?

[SpedApple]

sensi i belive maybe cops i dunno one of those crappy eye replacements. an elctronic ball detent that will close on a ball of any size would be great just becasue

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heres a idea make a system that automatically shoot when a ball is present for snceairo games. what i mean is have a way to shut off flow of balls and amke it so the gun will shoot if a ball is present

[ojhspyro89]

sensi i belive maybe cops i dunno one of those crappy eye replacements. an elctronic ball detent that will close on a ball of any size would be great just becasue

edit:
heres a idea make a system that automatically shoot when a ball is present for snceairo games. what i mean is have a way to shut off flow of balls and amke it so the gun will shoot if a ball is present

Wow i have a hard time understanding that.

[justjoshin590]

one thing, paintballs are 3 grams i beleive, so a MUCH lighter switch would be needed, aside from that i dont see why it wouldnt work, i could just imagine it getting ripped off by the botl, but if properly setup it would work fine, detents would still be needed though

[ojhspyro89]

one thing, paintballs are 3 grams i beleive, so a MUCH lighter switch would be needed, aside from that i dont see why it wouldnt work, i could just imagine it getting ripped off by the botl, but if properly setup it would work fine, detents would still be needed though

The bolt wouldnt rip the lever off if the lever is facing so the bolt will push it all the way down when the bolt goes forward. The lever part would be pointing towards the barrel and would be set down into the body a little bit so the bolt didnt smash the switch.

When there are a couple balls in between the feedneck and where the loader puts it in the feedtube it will activate a switch. I tried it with my hopper and my trigger. Crude expirement but it should work.


This is the perfect time that i need a very cheap electro spyder.

[kdawg]

Isn't that what Angels use to use? It was the COPS sensor I believe. A little pin thing that stuck up on the bottom of the breech that the ball fell on and was used to detect if a ball was present or not.......don't think it worked out that well though.

[ojhspyro89]

sensi i belive maybe cops i dunno one of those crappy eye replacements. an elctronic ball detent that will close on a ball of any size would be great just becasue

edit:
heres a idea make a system that automatically shoot when a ball is present for snceairo games. what i mean is have a way to shut off flow of balls and amke it so the gun will shoot if a ball is present

So that is what he was trying to say.

[Flossabe]

sensor

Yea the angle hand it up to the A4, replaced by the angel eyes in the A4 fly, it worked kindof crapy because it had to be calabrated every time you turned the marker on and you just couldet shoot near as fast as you can with the new angels or timmys ect., good consept though, as far as price infred eys are realy cheap, companys just charge alot for them cus they sound important but the board programing would be close to the same. you are on the right track keep it coming.

Flossabe

[ojhspyro89]

Ok this is like some st andard type gun or whatever. The microswitch is positioned at the bottom of the breach. When the ball drops in with the pressure of other balls on top of it, it activates the switch. as of now im planning on the balls holding down the switch.

The switch would then be wired to the trigger microswitch so both switches have to be closed to shoot the gun. Since it would just be wired with the trigger there would be no board alterations or any program issues or anything.

The arm on the switch would be pushed down by the bolt when it goes by. The switch would just lay down on itself. The thing that isnt illustrated too good is where the arm goes down. The arm would lay flush with the inner bore of the breach . The switch also serves as a ball detent. it could also be accompanied by another detent.


hows that sound?

[Chris Nearchos]

ball detent

if you gave the switch lever a little arc to it, you wouldnt need any other ball detent. and how wide are you planing on the switch to be?

your idea is a great one, but dont you think it is kinda of impossible? i mean you really wouldnt have enough space inside the spyder body with the way you have it drawn in the diagram. i suggest try modifing a spyder body into a warp feed body. a feed out the left or right side. then have the switch on the other side. that way you have plenty of room for the switch and you can put a cover over (box) over what sticks out. then you could (if you really wanted) put a single angel style ball detent on the top of the body. but like i said earlier, it really wouldnt be needed if you gave the switch lever enough arc to stop the ball from moving.
thanks,
chris

[mark_426]

Its what angels used.

Not really practical, except for a scenario. Your idea, firing as soon as paint hit the breech- would be easy - mod an e-guns trigger switch into the breach, done.

No detents? Except for the switch? You're on crack. I'll keep all my detents. As soon as you put some force on it, or look down, voila, 5 balls in the breech/barrel. If the switch is the detent, then its going to be putting a lot of pressure on the paint as the bolt pushes it past.

You'd be better off with a pair of eyes. What goes wrong with them now? Why would you want to change? Sure, Eblade/SP eyes suck, but they're not break beam.

And, breaking the switch? Once more, look how markers are currently. Slots in bolts, done.

As with sensi, what happens when you stick a straight shot down the barrel after a break? Snap, gone (or don't put the swab the whole way into your breech and don't clean it) because its going opposite direction, and has no slot etc.

[Chris Nearchos]

No detents? Except for the switch? You're on crack. I'll keep all my detents. As soon as you put some force on it, or look down, voila, 5 balls in the breech/barrel. If the switch is the detent, then its going to be putting a lot of pressure on the paint as the bolt pushes it past.

-as i was saying, you wouldnt need a ball detent if you gave the lever enough arc up to hold the paintball from rolling around. (it would be cradling it basicly).
-as for having more then one ball in the breach, if you stop the first ball from rolling forward into the barrel from the breach, which the arc in the lever dose, you wont have that problem.
-for the pressure problem your talking about, the switch would be sensitive enough to detect the ball and only hard enough to stop the ball from "rolling" forward. and as you said you would need a notched out slot in the under side of the bolt so that the lever/switch goes underneath in the slot of the bolt. (meaning no prssure on the ball/bolt)

You'd be better off with a pair of eyes. What goes wrong with them now? Why would you want to change? Sure, Eblade/SP eyes suck, but they're not break beam.

what happens when you break a paintball in the brech? you`ll have the broken shell sitting there and the eye (break beam) will say that there is a paintball in the brech even though its a broken shell.

And, breaking the switch? Once more, look how markers are currently. Slots in bolts, done

As with sensi, what happens when you stick a straight shot down the barrel after a break? Snap, gone (or don't put the swab the whole way into your breech and don't clean it) because its going opposite direction, and has no slot etc.

now for the breaking the switch theory, if the end of the lever (at the end of it - the end at the barrel) comes gown back to the gun at a angle you would have no problem then. you could then stick anything down the barrel and the lever would just be pressed down by the object being stuck down the barrel.


thanks,
chris

P.S. i`ll try and make up a drawing to help explain what iam talking about.

[trains are bad]

The switch would then be wired to the trigger microswitch so both switches have to be closed to shoot the gun. Since it would just be wired with the trigger there would be no board alterations or any program issues or anything.

...and you would have a full auto paintmarker. Use your brain man.

cool, but not legal.

[Chris Nearchos]

Full auto?

you wont have full auto if the switch is designed to have to be released after each pull before it can be pulled and fired again. you wounld just have a really nice semi auto setup.
-chris-

[trains are bad]

The switch would then be wired to the trigger microswitch so both switches have to be closed to shoot the gun.

the way it's described, if you hold switch number 1 (trigger), when a paintball falls on switch number2 (sensor) the marker fires. Then when another painball falls on switch number 2, it fires again, as fast as your hopper can feed.

Without a board for control you will have full auto.