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  • eric_503
    Registered User
    • May 2005
    • 357

    #1

    running a nail gun off an hpa tank

    yes i know theres probably a thread out there on this but i dont have the time to look threw everything right now

    anyways the nieghbours sons do roofing and asked if i could run there guns off hpa tanks (we got into a long talk of that and paintball to) what im thinking is just regulating the psi down to about 100 or 110 but im not sure if doing this will be more efficent then just running it off a normal compresser

    co2 is basicly out of the question because it gets quite hot up on the roofs and all i need is a tank blowing up or something like that
  • surfbum
    Unregistered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 736

    #2
    it would work if you regulated the pressure down
    as to whether or not it is more efficient, i dont know, it would mean they wouldnt have to carry a big compressor onto the roof which would be nice

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    • omegaredghost
      Registered User
      • May 2006
      • 38

      #3
      it would work but not for very long air nailers use lots of air volume. mostly because the inner workings of a air gun are heavy it takes a lot of air to move the parts inside. also i do know from being in a pinch that co2 works on air tools well in short burst that is. and a remote line and co2 tank work well to fill up a flat tire as the inner o-ring is just right to fit most valve stems ok ill stop rambling

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      • eric_503
        Registered User
        • May 2005
        • 357

        #4
        hmm so this is one of those things that are good and bad i just need to find away around the efficent problem i could try co2 but i rather wouldnt have the burst disk or anything poping while these guys are working

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        • slade
          Carpe Noctem
          • Apr 2004
          • 3442

          #5
          nail guns use a high volume of relatively low pressure air. you'd need to put a buffer tank in between the regulator and the gun. even then, though, you may not get all that many shots off of a paintball tank. if you could measure the volume of air used per shot at a certain PSI, i could calculate the shots youd get from a certain size tank.

          remember, PV=nRT.
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          • eric_503
            Registered User
            • May 2005
            • 357

            #6
            so how could i do that(the volume part) im not educated on everything like that yet...(grade 9 after summer) im probably just not up on the math end tho

            i was just going to shoot until the tank emptyed and then figure out what i can do from there but your way might be easyer

            its either going to be run off a 48/3000,72/3000,9 or 20oz tank,and my favorite 12 grams(just because i have a 12 gram changer around)

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            • rkjunior303
              I need this more than you
              • May 2003
              • 4029

              #7
              this has disaster written all over it.

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              • slade
                Carpe Noctem
                • Apr 2004
                • 3442

                #8
                well, measuring the volume of air would be the hard part. the only way i can think of without an elaborate setup would be to open up the gun and measure the volume of air required to actuate the cylinder (volume of cylinder and hose).

                Originally posted by rkjunior303
                this has disaster written all over it.
                that reminds me. make sure you take the spring out of the safety, and then you can hold it back permanently with a rubber band.
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                • MANN
                  I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 4266

                  #9
                  You can get a cheap compressor for less than an HPA tank. You also won't have to worry about getting it filled.

                  On second thought. I have used my nailer with an hpa tank, and a remote line. It makes it easy to build paintball barriers in the woods. I have also aired up my car tires with it before. (I had a flat tire on the way to play paintball)

                  They do not last long, and you need a half dozen scuba tanks to refil them. In my opinion, sell the HPA, and buy a compressor.

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                  • eric_503
                    Registered User
                    • May 2005
                    • 357

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rkjunior303
                    this has disaster written all over it.
                    im not that stupid i know enough that if something goes wrong to just drop it and not attempt it agian

                    in further note MANN which size tank and approxamitly (spelling?) how many shots

                    would there be anyway i could make the nail gun have less volume the pack the same punch?

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                    • slade
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3442

                      #11
                      Originally posted by eric_503
                      in further note MANN which size tank and approxamitly (spelling?) how many shots
                      the shots would depend on the nail gun and would differ vastly.

                      Originally posted by eric_503
                      would there be anyway i could make the nail gun have less volume the pack the same punch?
                      shorten the hoses between the 3-way and ram.
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                      • eric_503
                        Registered User
                        • May 2005
                        • 357

                        #12
                        explain more on the hoses and 3 way i dont have one in my hands to rip apart yet

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                        • Sam5992
                          wants a mag... badly
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 62

                          #13
                          might work.....

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                          • rkjunior303
                            I need this more than you
                            • May 2003
                            • 4029

                            #14
                            Originally posted by eric_503
                            im not that stupid i know enough that if something goes wrong to just drop it and not attempt it agian
                            when i hear on CNN about some dumb kid that nail gunned his foot to a piece of wood, or even worse, i'm going to laugh.

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                            • Remington
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 1671

                              #15
                              A thousand times easier than trying to convert a paintball HPA tank to work with a nail gun . . .



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