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  • AGD
    The man from AGD

    • Oct 2000
    • 5916

    #1

    Some Thoughtfull Words sent from Glenn Palmer

    This came in on email from Glenn:

    << << This is so true, it is scary. . . . . Hard to
    believe this was written by a high school student. . .


    The paradox of our time in history is that we have
    taller buildings, but shorter tempers;
    wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints;
    we spend more, but have less;
    we buy more, but enjoy it less.

    We have bigger houses and smaller families;
    more conveniences, but less time;
    we have more degrees, but less sense;
    more knowledge, but less judgment;
    more experts, but fewer solutions;
    more medicine, but less wellness.

    We have multiplied our possessions,
    but reduced our values.

    We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

    We've learned how to make a living, but not a life;
    we've added years to life, not life to years.

    We've been all the way to the moon and back, but
    have trouble crossing the street to meet the new
    neighbor.

    We've conquered outer space, but not inner space;
    we've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul;
    we've split the atom, but not our prejudice.

    We have higher incomes, but lower morals;
    we've become long on quantity, but short on quality.

    These are the times of tall men, and short character;
    steep profits, and shallow relationships.

    These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare;
    more leisure, but less fun;
    more kinds of food, but less nutrition.

    These are days of two incomes, but more divorce;
    of fancier houses, but broken homes.

    It is a time when there is much in the show window
    and nothing in the stockroom.

    A time when technology can bring this letter to
    you, and a time when you can choose either to forward
    this message and make a difference. . . or just hit
    delete
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  • shartley
    • Jun 2026

    #2

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    • thei3ug
      Canicus
      • Oct 2000
      • 846

      #3
      janstah, i tend to agree. not because it's sentimental... but because i think i'm one of the people ruining this poor kids life, and i still don't care.
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      • Curt
        Registered User
        • Jul 2001
        • 7

        #4
        Well he's wrong.

        Less nutrition? Guess he's not up with the latest in genetic engineering. We have corn that makes it's own insecticide. works great. Have had it for years.

        Spend more but have less? we live like KINGS. At any time of the night or day I can go out and buy a cheesburger. that's power. I don't know about you but I enjoy the heck out of my Microwave, home entertainment system, house, couch, rug and any number of other things I have because of mass production.

        I could go on, but won't bother tit-for-tat. This is bleeding-heart liberalism at its worst. "look how bad thigns are, take my word for it". People, please, look around and think for yourselves. Try to take less for granted and realize how good we have it. Our understanding of the world around us has given us everything from modern medicine to bungee jumping. Our standard of living (yes even in other countries, do some research) is unreasonably high.

        Sorry that my first post to this board has to be a sort-of rant. But it caught my eye and this kind of thing pushes my buttons.

        -Curt

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        • Big Red One
          It's NOT a sex thing...
          • Jul 2001
          • 23

          #5
          You're not alone Curt. While the above is poetically sentimental, it only reinforces the "get along" attitude that is prevalent in society today. All of the "more of" passages are because of people who refuse to say 'well, that's good enough'. The "less of" passages are because of people who refuse to think for themselves.

          I have "more of" than my father did at my age, solely due to the fact that he did not wait to be given anything, but went out and worked for it. He has been married to my mother for 55 years now, because they did not believe in simply saying 'well, that was good enough,.

          If you are a thinker, more power to you. If you are a thinker and innovator, bless you for all that you have achieved for mankind.

          BTW; while Glen Palmer is a hell of a guy, it is too bad he thinks the poem is scary. I think of it as a first draft into getting it right.

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          • JanStah
            l33t H4x0r
            • Dec 2000
            • 166

            #6
            Um. My post got deleted.

            If it was because I used a mild swearword, then fair enough.

            If it was because somebody didnt agree with what I wrote, then I'm dissappointed. I tried extra hard to be very reasonable in what I wrote; I certainly wasnt rude to anyone.

            Could whoever deleted it please respond or email me and let me know why? Thanks.

            Jan.


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            • MagDog68
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              • May 2001
              • 1063

              #7
              HEY!!!! Someone else is using MONTY PYTHON LINES IN THEIR SIGGY!!!!!! I cornered the market on that!!!!! Stop that, stop that...bloody weather.

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              • thecavemankevin
                the living un-banned
                • Feb 2001
                • 4346

                #8
                AAhhhhh!!!

                My head hurts! I should not have to be thinking now, it is summer time!

                But yes it has a very nice poetic thought to it. Some true, some true only in his eyes. But nice none the less.


                Jan, dude, what happened?


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                • -§on-
                  Keepin' it Gangsta
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 1333

                  #9
                  That was...WoW. Well Said.
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                  • nastymag
                    XPSL D2/ Nppl D2
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 924

                    #10
                    i think some of you guys are missing the point. you can be happy but a lot us are not satisfid(sp) with what we have no matter what we have. i am not like that but think of it this way, when you where 7 and you had 10 bucks i remember enjoying it a lot more then now with 40 bucks. i knew this girl that in my opinion is very pretty but she keeps on bashing her self because magazines say she has to look like this or that.
                    people are too busy to take their time with their familys.
                    people get addicted to medicene that should make them fell better feel better.
                    we live for 90 years yet are on diets and aneraxea(sp).
                    throwing away freindships because somone looks like a geek.
                    people live longer but dont enjoy it to the fullest and they spend the last 20 years of their life in a nursing home.
                    i think he hit it right on the mark


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                    • Webmaster
                      Former Moderator

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 1765

                      #11
                      I think thats a good one too..

                      I also thing some of you need to read a bit more carefully and think about the words before replying..

                      IE - curt - you attack a couple sentences while missing the over all meaning.

                      Yes - genetically engineered food is why the USA is #1 in food production and why we can sell the Russians back wheat that originally came from thier own country.

                      I believe its all the diet foods (diet pop has NO nutrition) and the 101 other bad food for you that are prepackaged and passed out. He not talking about your beef and potatoes - its your twinkies and coke.

                      When I grew up - Pop was for pizza night and cook outs. Thats it. It was special. Milk was the standard.

                      I dont find this poem liberal at all. Indeed - its a call back to the days of our fathers when family and life were more important than cable and SUVs.

                      As for Big Red One - I think you too miss a few things. I dont feel Palmer "fears" this poem like what you seem to suggest. I think he "fears" it in a way that someone so young has such insight. Sort of like wisdom from the mouths of babes. I also think that you too miss the whole meaning by focuasing on certain parts. Ever hear of too much of a good thing? Yes its good to have nice modern things - but I think his point was that these things have eroded us to a degree and we become slaves to the machine.

                      I could be wrong - as poetry by nature is interpretative. But I feel one should take 10 secs to really find the true voice, rather than jump at the first shadow.

                      Also - Im just pointing out curt and big red 1 cuz they jumped out at me. Im not trying to start a war - I just had a reaction to your comments, just as you had one to the original post.

                      Finally - Big Red One - where you ever at Ft Riley? I used to be in Manhattan. Did you play there ever?



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                      • rifleman
                        I registered before you.
                        • Oct 2000
                        • 592

                        #12
                        You guys want to see how things "used" to be?--As in how this student said the days "used" to be?

                        Take away all the technology, pull out the board games and intereact. We tried it once, took away the t.v., and I actually found out I had other people living with me; lol.

                        Adam

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                        • sovereign82
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2000
                          • 67

                          #13
                          ~delete[this is not an official AGD delete, the poster wrote this]...who gives a [this area was filled with asterix's to symbolize a bad word, your moderators have deleted this to spare all of you the anguish] about the past...its over and done with...it can not be changed...live for today and you'll be a much happier person...lead your own life, dont try to lead someone elses...

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                          • MagMan5446
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                            • Jun 2001
                            • 2572

                            #14
                            Wow. That guy has life typed out right in front of us. He know exactly what he is talking about, which is that we have material items that we long for and desire, but nothing else.

                            It amazes me how poets can do stuff like this. I could never do this if I tried, it just seems to come naturaly to this guy. Kinda weird if you think about it...



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                            • randomboy
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 698

                              #15
                              Wow.
                              I can walk and chew bubble gum, but I cant seem to sprint and shoot from the shoulder while strafing at the same time, hmmmmmm, maybe I'm just not coordinated enough yet.

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