Who wants to cast the first stone?

[Tassel Mask]

Nudi, very good reply. Well maintained, balanced; where did you earn your degree?

Obviously if people read the threads posted on this event from the last half of the year, its very easy to see the roller coaster ride of emotion and personal expectation for 2005. Nudi, I like how you at one point looked at the event as a consumer and a paintaball player. I think that condensed the last 7 months in one post.

Some of your points however I must strongly disagree with I don't agree with: "paintball players are fickle"

Fick-le: adj. Deceitful, inconsistent, akin to deceive, befician to deceive, to irk and probe: marked by lack of steadfastness, constancy, or stability: given to erratic and even perverse changeableness.
Synonyms: Inconsistent


Receptor-mediated Endocytosers would be a more accurate phrase for the paintball player don't you think? To call them "fickle" to me is just silly.

Other than that, I think you should post more often Nudi, your are well spoken use colorful wording. Thanks for the post.

T.M.

[Rick-USA]

Some of your points however I must strongly disagree with I don't agree with: "paintball players are fickle"

Fick-le: adj. Deceitful, inconsistent, akin to deceive, befician to deceive, to irk and probe: marked by lack of steadfastness, constancy, or stability: given to erratic and even perverse changeableness.
Synonyms: Inconsistent

T.M.

I have to agree with her calling paintball players fickle. In general paintball players are an inconsistent group. They may not be fickle in other areas of life but where this sport is concerned they sure are.


As far as Bobby taking offense to your post Barrie, we both know the real answer to that question. It's about as likely to happen as you not getting 20 request for "berries" at the next event you show up at.

Mike, I've heard that part of the reason this event has been held in the north was to get away from as much of the heat as possible. Sept where we live is still considered mid summer most years and it doesn't look like this one will be any different.

[Tassel Mask]

Hey Rick, if you believe that I actually think calling paintball players fickle is silly, you obviously don't understand my sense of humor. because as we all know Receptor-mediated Endocytosers is not the slightest silly; silly.

[Nudi]

I'm finishing up my Master's at the University of Texas at Arlington.

Two posts, in one day...who would have figured!

I appreciate the postive response to my post, but still fully expect negative response as well. I don't care, really. People can post what they will (as long as it falls into moderated specs of the board they are posting on).

And while I respect your right to disagree, I still say paintballers are very fickle. And your definition just reinforced it: inconsistent; lack of steadfastness, constancy or stability; given to erratic and even perverse changableness.

I play scenario paintball, where players are fickle at best. Now, I don't want to sound like I'm knocking scenario paintballers (being one myself, I fail to see how that would be wise) but they are prone to fickleness.

One week they are staunch Black Cat supporters, next week they are backing Viper, and the week after that possibly MXS, Nocer, TAW, MMP...the list goes on and on. They promise to make this game (and don't) and say they will never play this producer's games (and do) and say "So and so will never see one dime of my money" only to get in bed with said producer if it means a game close to their hometown or if they get a 'finder's fee' for providing a field. They complain about paint, porta-potties, venues, referees, field owners, other players and teams (all justified, taken individually and situationally) and may or may not show up again regardless of whether said problems are fixed or not (you just never know).

Would unpredictable have been a better word? Or maybe just inconsistent? Gee, all synonyms for fickle....

And I understand that. People should get what they pay for. Especially if they are out a grand and over half way across the country just to play the game. If they don't, then they get to choose how to handle it: complain, smack people down on boards, send emails, talk to friends, or vote with their pocketbook.

receptor-mediated endocytosers

I happen to be in health-care, so it's funny to me you used this as a way to describe paintballers. Now, I understand what you are saying in reference to the internalization of (in this case) emotions, feelings, thoughts, due to the interaction of (in this case) the person and their environment, but it's missing one thing: there have to be special receptors involved; receptors that are specifically targeted. So, in this context, you'd have to be trying to 'push buttons' for this to apply. Besides it's a molecular process, bound by certain laws (meaning, if any material (key) presents itself to the right cell (lock) and there is room, it will always be let in) ...and in no way is the human condition bound to such laws.

In other words, I can tell you all day that I wasn't silly when I chose the work fickle; it's up to you to either listen to what I have to say and change your mind, or stay true to your first declaration of my 'silliness.'

I hope no one is deliberately trying to push buttons either...

Appreciate the invite to post more often, but I try to just watch and read. It's easier that way...

(BTW, for all you non-medical types, receptor mediated endocytosis is a process describing how cells internalize material, nutrients, molecules or viruses. As its name implies, it depends on the interaction of that molecule with a specific binding protein in the cell membrane called a receptor.)

[Tassel Mask]

Absolutley the best post since the last Nudi. The great thing about being "super smart" as I declare myself, is that humor morphs beyond observation into calculation.

I must state: Binding of a ligand by a cell surface protein stimulates the cell to draw the ligand in a vesical. Ligand is a bio chemical.

If we use symbolism, we can apply this to paintball players.

Oh the joy of having a complex matrix; not to mention using it. I'm glad you found my post amusing Nudi; until next time.

"so it's funny to me you used this as a way to describe paintballers" you should hear what I call Professors.

T.M.

[Mike Smith]

Mike, I've heard that part of the reason this event has been held in the north was to get away from as much of the heat as possible. Sept where we live is still considered mid summer most years and it doesn't look like this one will be any different.

Rick:
I have an old Tippmann ProAm that we can sacrifice on the speedball field and I think I can convince Rev Splatter to pray for a cold front on the Friday before Labor Day.

If that's not enough, I'll donate my 24' Travel trailer for Bill's exclusive use over Labor day, so he will have a private "kool-down" area. I'll even pop for the $1500 Yamaha generator to insure uninterrupted koolness.

And yes, I noticed you side-stepped my question....



Oh, and thanks for the post Nudi. You nailed it...

[Tassel Mask]

Why is it the only person who can psychoanalyze my humor is the one who doesn't like to post? Hows that for irony. You will be missed.

T.M.

[Rick-USA]

Mike, I wasn't trying to side step your question at all. If you want a direct answer I'll attempt that. Since I'm not a principal owner of the business and only function as the manager of the place I can only give you my opinion and which way I'd try to influence the owners. IF offered the chance to host this event I'd do my best to make sure the field and support staff were in place so that all could have a great time.

[msprince]

For any one who knows me they know I say what I say because that's what I feel. I don't defend people who don't deserve it and I'm definitely NOT fickle. I've been playing paintball for a mere 4 years BUT have made a lot of friends doing so and wouldn't trade any of that time for anything. I've played the promoters that have come out here, MXS, BlackCat, MPP, and TAW. I've enjoyed all the games good or bad and have only once had anything to complain about but STILL chose not to because unexpected things happen, it wouldn't have changed anything. I will play all of them again when and if given the opportunity. Since I live in NEVADA and help take care of my family of 8 I have had a hard time affording a trip to Shatnerball YET. BUT I will say I have lived vicariously through the posts here and I'm happy to do so until I can make it to one.
I am in GREAT hopes that they have it out here on the West Coast. I am in GREAT hopes to meet those of you who are AVID Shatnerball fans and alumni. Hey I'll even supply the goodies I just thank my lucky stars everyday that we live in a country where no matter what we can state an opinion whether it is agreed with or not and listen to others opinions and disagree if we please. Take offense if you wish, I don't, it's all just playful banter really But I will say this one more time..... Thank you Celebrity Paintball for all that you do and try to do, for attempting great things and admitting set backs , for spending your gratis time on putting events together even though some of us po folks can't attend!

Stephanie Prince(ss)
MXS Publicist/Staff Writer/ Photographer
"The Cookie Lady"
Co-Captain Battle Born

[Mike Smith]

IF offered the chance to host this event I'd do my best to make sure the field and support staff were in place so that all could have a great time.

Good answer, Rick, although it's a bit understated.

Folks, for those of you who do not know about Paintball USA, it is a 100+ acre field in Houston that plays better than CPX in Joliet. It is nowhere near as elaborate ($6 milliion was not spent on the field), but it is much better when it comes to actually playing the game. Several scenario teams have built elaborate structures/forts/bases on the field, incorporating what they know about paintball into the playability of those structures. And their ref staff is the best I've seen. That's why I consider Rick's answer to be "understated".

[Tassel Mask]

Hey Houston Texas ballers., what about my home field Adventure Village? They had a real APC and a burned out copter. But thats just smoke and mirror. Gotta support the home field. Only problem is that it was located (If I remember correctly on FM1960) which is a mess to drive on.

[Rick-USA]

Is Adventure village still open? I'd heard through the gossip mill that they had closed down.

Mike, thanks for the kind words. We are a field ran by players who try our best to give other players what they want to play on. It's been a combined effort put forth by many paintball players over the years to get to where we are now.

[Trips]

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[Mike Smith]

Trips, I guess I just didn't understand the secrecy. Why? It would have been totally reasonable to state that MXS was attempting to get a game at the Astrodome. A little explanation of "Geez, this looks REAL difficult, but guess what we're trying to do" would have gone far to explain the process. I don't see the need for the "mystery" and the teasing for the last 7-8 months.

Also, I understand that you are speaking as Trips, the player and not Trips, the MXS Ultimate, but how do you separate the two? You are you.

Am I ticked off about the game not happening on Labor Day? Yea...but I'll get over it.
As to PB USA on Labor Day, I want it there. It would give me and the rest of the Texans a distinct advantage. I'm all for that!

However.... If plan "B" involves a game on October 8 & 9, you and everyone else will see my "dark side". No one reading this has seen my "dark side". No one reading this EVER wants to see my "dark side".
Just an FYI...

[Trips]

Mike I thought we saw your dark side over by Mancows Suv the first year!!! Sorry but you have to see the picture to understand.

Me is me, I am I, Trips is still Bobby. For the most part the two personas are very very similar. But Geez Mike you know me well enough to see the change when I am in full blown "Trips Mode".
I suppose I should have seperate screename, but then again I did pretty good getting this one to work and hate to jinx my luck. ....thud!