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  • gmag
    Lucid Dreamer
    • Jun 2001
    • 409

    #1

    Low pressure inquiry

    Somewhere I read that mags have the lowest operating pressure. It was on this site and I did a search, but I cannot find it. Is this true? If so, just throw down some info for me. Thanks.
    ~Brett
    "Men think they think upon great politcal questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
    ~Mark Twain
  • HoppysMag
    Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
    • Oct 2001
    • 3494

    #2
    nope. mags have a rather high pressure.
    "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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    • gmag
      Lucid Dreamer
      • Jun 2001
      • 409

      #3
      Thats what I thought. I swear I remember reading something about it having 60 psi operating pressure. Anyone else?
      "Men think they think upon great politcal questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
      ~Mark Twain

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      • cphilip
        Former Moderator

        • Jun 2026
        • 16216

        #4
        Back in "the day" Mag were the "Original" Low Pressure fast recharge built in regulated Marker. Some of that is still the case. Outside of operating pressures used to move all the thingamagiggies other markers have they put about the same air pressure to the ball as any other Marker. So yes they are Low pressure where it counts the most. A common miss conception is what the regulator operates at is the ball applied pressure. That is not precisly what is put to the ball. I think someone said it was 180 or 190 psi on most if not ALL markers? Someone step in and correct me if thats not right.

        However the rest...Built in Regulator and Fastest recharge. Mag is still the King baby!!!! Still the KING!!!!!


        AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

        cphilip.com

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        • HyperSnyper

          #5
          Originally posted by HoppysMag
          nope. mags have a rather high pressure.
          hmmm...

          I would consider stock guns like Spyders and Piranhas High pressure guns. The run at 700+ psi operating pressure. The Mag on the other hand, runs at about 350-450 psi operating. I would consider this medium pressure. Mine runs at about ~360-370. Not sure exactly how accurate my mini gauge really is. But its somewhere in the ballpark.

          -Hyper

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          • cphilip
            Former Moderator

            • Jun 2026
            • 16216

            #6
            Yes! You are correct. But that is the "Operating pressure" of the Valves and such that you guys seem so stuck on. Who cares so much about that realy. I care more about force on the ball and recharge time? Mag is the King there with its recharge advantage. The rest is a draw realy. Low Pressure is an often popular misconception of some magical advantages. It depends on what you get for it. Lower does not mean better.


            AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

            cphilip.com

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            • HoppysMag
              Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
              • Oct 2001
              • 3494

              #7
              thanks..... i was wrong yet again.
              "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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              • gmag
                Lucid Dreamer
                • Jun 2001
                • 409

                #8
                So what is the force on a ball in a mag?
                "Men think they think upon great politcal questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
                ~Mark Twain

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                • Manuel_FZR
                  This is my MiniMag ...
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 563

                  #9
                  The pressure behind the ball is verry low of the Mag:

                  Mag: 60psi
                  Angel: 95psi
                  Matrix: 45psi
                  Cocker: 110psi

                  (posted by Tom in a Deep Blue
                  Last edited by Manuel_FZR; 02-12-2002, 01:30 PM.
                  Greets Manuel
                  .:| levelx retro z-minimag |:..:| spearhead #192 |:.
                  .:| ---> looking for Flatline 4.5K or AA Apokalypse 2K <--- |:.

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #10
                    I was hoping someone more technical would confirm it was in the 180 to 190 psi range for almost all PB guns but no luck so far. However the answer to your question of the Mag being the lowest "Operating Pressure" is no but they are not the highest either. I was trying to point out its not realy that important what the operating pressure is if it sacrifices recharge time to a point to get that low...And in most cases it does...but I might have failed!


                    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                    cphilip.com

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                    • cphilip
                      Former Moderator

                      • Jun 2026
                      • 16216

                      #11
                      Manuel_FZR to the rescue! Its that low huh? Wow. We are the KING!!!!


                      AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                      cphilip.com

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                      • gmag
                        Lucid Dreamer
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 409

                        #12
                        Thanks guys! Thats EXACTLY what I was looking for!
                        ~Brett
                        "Men think they think upon great politcal questions, and they do; but they think with their party, not independently; they read its literature, but not that of the other side; they arrive at convictions, but they are drawn from a partial view of the matter in hand and are of no particular value. They swarm with their party, they feel with their party, they are happy in their party's approval; and where the party leads they will follow, whether for right and honor, or through blood and dirt and a mush of mutilated morals."
                        ~Mark Twain

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                        • Manuel_FZR
                          This is my MiniMag ...
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 563

                          #13
                          Deep Blue - verry interesting!
                          Greets Manuel
                          .:| levelx retro z-minimag |:..:| spearhead #192 |:.
                          .:| ---> looking for Flatline 4.5K or AA Apokalypse 2K <--- |:.

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                          • steveg
                            Member
                            • May 2001
                            • 460

                            #14
                            Manuel_FZR to the rescue! Its that low huh? Wow. We are the KING!!!!
                            humm at 45 the matrix is lower still.
                            the mag bolt is still under ~18 lb of cocking pressure, ouch!

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                            • cphilip
                              Former Moderator

                              • Jun 2026
                              • 16216

                              #15
                              Yes! but combine that with our superior recharge time. Hey I gotta crow on that!


                              AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                              cphilip.com

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