Help...Good hopper for the Tac-One

[dstud2000]

I like my Egg II on my RT ULE, it does the job really well and balances fairly well....it is a little big, but that is fine by me.

[trevorjk]

the rico apache feeds just as fast as the evolution 3 from viewloader. dont let hype and others fool you. you will only get consistent feed around 13-15bps. which is PLENTY fast for the tac-one, unless you are bouncing the trigger.

the Kingman Fasta, i have NO EXPERIENCE WITH THIS HOPPER, but from what i have read and seen. this seems to be a new version of the Egg (evolution 3) hopper. in my opinion

the Revy was, and still is a solid choice, very reliable but will only consistently feed 10'ish even with the xboard.

----- side note. Revy - Viewloader Revolution. also Empire makes a Sound Activated clone of this hopper. where the Viewloader model is Eye activated.

your other options besides the agitated(revy) and the pre-sorted agitated(apache and Evolution 3), are the pre-sorted force fed hoppers which would be hoppers such as the Halo and the Velocity's. there was a promising Pulse loader by Draxxus but that was Curbed for Infringment.

now a days that has become a "to each there own" debate. both (halo and velocity) will feed 20 BPS + if set up right. both are great hoppers if taken care of. and both have shell and battery issues. (feednecks cracking or breaking off and battery life is not very good.) but the shell issues are USUALLY user error or being to rough with the equipment.

------ side note, when i say Halo, i am also speaking fore the Empire B2 (halo clone but sound activated as where the Odyssey Halo is Eye activated)
------ side note 2, there are 2 Velocities. the velocity and the velocity jr. i believe the JR is just a tad smaller. but some one would have to clarify that one

now, IF i had a tac-one i would probably get the Apache since it would probably looks best on the gun, not drain batteries and would be plenty fast for the tac-one UNDER NORMAL USE. how ever if i were to want a hopper that would feed fast enough for when i wanted to bounce the trigger. i would definetly go with a nice halo with ripdrive and AT LEAST a V-35 board.


the 8-12 bps range hoppers

(Viewloader Revolution $50)


(Empire Reloader $45)


(Halo Frontman $45ish (backman - tad bigger $55ish))


(Tippman Triumph SSL200 $60ish)





the 12-16 bps range hoppers

(Ricochet Apache anywhere from $45-100, sales and closeouts ect ect)




(Viewloader Evolution 3 $60ish)








Easily 16bps and up loaders

(empire b2 loader $130 for black and $150ish for colors) *with ripdrive


(Odyssey Halo with V-35 board $125) *with ripdrive


(Viewloader Vlocity Jr (tad slower) $100, Vlocity (regular) $130, XSV Vlocity (fastest) $180ish *all look pretty much the same)







and a the hopper some one will have to verify the true feed rate of is the Kingman Fasta $90ish

[trevorjk]

The Q-loader... Propably still the fastest on the market

$130 for the 5 pod package.



and for $185 you can get the q-loader harness



each pod holds 100 rounds, so 5 pods = 500 rounds at most on the field.

sure its fastest, but its a VERY odd setup and is a acquired taste. think of it as having to change a clip on an M-16 or something of the sorts every time you run out of paintballs. unless your use to it, it definetly can be tricky.



i DO NOT recommend the Q-Loader UNLESS! you can try one out before buying. however, IF you like it, you will definetly get the fastest feed rates and a unique gun setup

[trevorjk]

The AGD Warp Feed.(new is around $100ish) is a loader accessory which puts the loader at the same height of the gun.





IE: feedneck of the gun, will be just as high as the top of the loader.




pro's - barrel is essientially the highest part of your hole set up... except your head

con's - VERY HARD to shoot with both hands. and can be a tad cumbersome and heavy. ALSO, you WILL need another hopper from the selection above that will feed the balls into the warp feed.

[trevorjk]

hope i helped

[Anjin3515]

hope i helped

more then helped...much much thanks....so much info to go over....going to have to read it all a few times

Side note...I kind of like the looks of the Apache.....

[Marrr]

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Someone...please test this Kingman Fasta hooper..........

[DaFin]

A question on the "rip drive".... Why would I want something on a motorized hopper to wind up? Sure it'd be nice *IF* the drive system broke or the batteries suddenly run out of steam but for the $$ I expect it NOT to break and if the batteries where that low I'd expect some kind of warning.

Sure you out there say it can happen, but if it really mattered would you not have extra batteries in the staging area and change them if they where in doubt? And if the thing broke it simply did not meet up to it's expectations of it's serviceable life and why would one pay that much for it.

So why do I need this feature/back up on what is priced as a deluxe/high end hopper?

And yes, I am grumpy today.

[trevorjk]

A question on the "rip drive".... Why would I want something on a motorized hopper to wind up? Sure it'd be nice *IF* the drive system broke or the batteries suddenly run out of steam but for the $$ I expect it NOT to break and if the batteries where that low I'd expect some kind of warning.

Sure you out there say it can happen, but if it really mattered would you not have extra batteries in the staging area and change them if they where in doubt? And if the thing broke it simply did not meet up to it's expectations of it's serviceable life and why would one pay that much for it.

So why do I need this feature/back up on what is priced as a deluxe/high end hopper?

And yes, I am grumpy today.

yes there is a warning on both the Odyssey and the Empire halo's BUT the batteries when they start to get low are gone with in minutes or less. literally. fresh batteries at the start of the day can be dead half way through the day.

i personally have had fresh batteries. during the course of the day i could feel the motor getting weaker. then one game the warning light came on. once the warning light came on i had maybe 50 shots before the thing refused to load.

the batteries just go that quick when they are low

[blake20]

Fasta any good?????

Maybe you can try new Kingman Spyder Fasta loader.Good speed,nice look,can care 230 paintballs(lol) and price for it is really affordable!!!!

Good luck!

Have you used a Fasta yet?? I have a DXS Pulse and I'm not to happy. Took a shot directly on the end and broke shells in half battery pack fell out and broke it. So I'm lookin for a new hopper. Although I'd say the Pulse was fast. Looked good on my tac one but they can't be purchased anymore.

[93civiccpe]

BEST ADVICE YET:

Go with the Viewloader Eye Force. I have owned almost every hopper listed above. I do still love the q-loader, as it is a no-battery operation that is the fastest & most reliable... but somewhat a pain to load.

I loved my halo-b with the v35 board until I kept getting paint on the eyes and it quickly becomes worthless, and you have to take the whole thing apart to clean the eyes.. BAD DESIGN in my opinion.

I threw a reloader b2 board in there to have sound operation and I use that hopper now quite a bit. It works well for me and I haven't had any problems.

That being said, I picked up a Viewloader Eye Force for $55 SHIPPED online as a backup. I was pleasantly surprised when I looked at the design. It seems incredibly solid, and is very simple to take apart. On top of that, the eyes are behind a window, so by just using one of the cotton straightshot squeegies you can easily clear them if you did have a break in the hopper. I honestly don't know how they got this on the market so cheap... it has 2 sets of eyes and feeds around 22bps from what I've seen. I haven't liked any viewloader product in a long while, but I'm starting to come around until this gives me a reason not to like it.

Hope that helps.

[93civiccpe]

A question on the "rip drive".... Why would I want something on a motorized hopper to wind up? Sure it'd be nice *IF* the drive system broke or the batteries suddenly run out of steam but for the $$ I expect it NOT to break and if the batteries where that low I'd expect some kind of warning.

Sure you out there say it can happen, but if it really mattered would you not have extra batteries in the staging area and change them if they where in doubt? And if the thing broke it simply did not meet up to it's expectations of it's serviceable life and why would one pay that much for it.

So why do I need this feature/back up on what is priced as a deluxe/high end hopper?

And yes, I am grumpy today.

By the way, I can't tell you how many times the rip drive has saved my butt when I was using older batteries and forgot to change them out before starting a day of play. Or in general... it's just the worst feeling when you are pushed forward on the attack and then have no way to get the balls from the hopper to the gun. It is a nice feature.. and the only one I see lacking in the viewloader eye force that I was advising you.

And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you take my advice, please get the viewloader EYE force, and not the regular viewloader force. The regular force does not have eyes, constantly powers the motor keeping pressure on the stack, which makes a wonderful whining noise and eats your batteries quick. Then again, it's only a $30 hopper. The Eye Force is much better.

[Anjin3515]

Humm right now I am leaning in a few directions...

Viewloader Eye Force: sounds pretty good. Not bad price,200 ball capacity. Dont know much about it.

Ricochet Apache : like the looks.speed good.light. and from their site "The Apache is the only high-speed loader that will still function as a gravity feed hopper in the event of a dead battery situation or malfunction. " but have heard it can turn into a paint blender.

Q-Loader: Good looks. No blimp. but...worried about all the "complications of it"

Halo and Egg: to me look HUGE. But I am told preform well..

Man to many choices....this is hard coming from a A-5!!!!

[trevorjk]

think of it this way. you know how the cyclone feed pre sorted the balls then forced them into the breech after everytime you shot a ball? thats exactly what the Force Fed (halos) hoppers do. except the cyclone runs on excess gas from the valve where these hoppers run off of battery.

hope that helps you understand a little better


and one more side note. IF you are shooting the gun normally. (no mechanical bounce, no pnumatic trigger set up) you will probably only shoot 7ish bps on average maybe peak at around 10bps if your super fast.

[B-Pow]

A question on the "rip drive".... Why would I want something on a motorized hopper to wind up? Sure it'd be nice *IF* the drive system broke or the batteries suddenly run out of steam but for the $$ I expect it NOT to break and if the batteries where that low I'd expect some kind of warning.

Sure you out there say it can happen, but if it really mattered would you not have extra batteries in the staging area and change them if they where in doubt? And if the thing broke it simply did not meet up to it's expectations of it's serviceable life and why would one pay that much for it.

So why do I need this feature/back up on what is priced as a deluxe/high end hopper?

And yes, I am grumpy today.

It's nice to use the Rip drive to cronograph, but that's not why I have one. I was playing one day and I went through all of the case of blaze I had with me (I blame Tyger for letting me borrow his e-mag...I couldn't not shoot mass ammounts) and I had a spare bag of JT Elite. Now JT Elite is utter crap, so it kept jamming the halo. So instead of letting the motor jam on **** paint and having to reset the board, I just used the rip drive to load the stack and kept playing.

The rip drive comes in very handy, and if you don't have it and you need it you'll be pissed you didn't spend that extra $5.