need a powerful Airsoft gun

[Muzikman]

Again, shooting them is not going to jack squat. Now is the Mother in law just wants to have fun shooting them, that's a totally different thing. I still stand my ground and say, do not shoot them. Paintball guns and air soft guns are not for shooting at animals.

Or come up with something original.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/diy/homemade-pigeon-deterrent-keeps-flying-poop-machines-away-300644.php?autoplay=true

[StygShore]

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Again, shooting them is not going to jack squat. Now is the Mother in law just wants to have fun shooting them, that's a totally different thing. I still stand my ground and say, do not shoot them. Paintball guns and air soft guns are not for shooting at animals.

Or come up with something original.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/diy/homem...?autoplay=true

You miss this part?

I'm not looking for a lesson in morality and don't wanna hear "you'll shoot your eye out kid" -


Styg


I guess we could just shoot them dead with the 30-06 and throw them over the fence - would that work for you?

[Muzikman]

No, shoot them and give them to a food shelter.


And it's jack asses like you that publicly post about shooting animals that get the kiddies out in the suburbs shooting the neighbors cat. Now do the mature thing and respect the wildlife.

[StygShore]

stuff it...

No, shoot them and give them to a food shelter.


And it's jack asses like you that publicly post about shooting animals that get the kiddies out in the suburbs shooting the neighbors cat. Now do the mature thing and respect the wildlife.

Because I am the mesiah... and all should follow my example....


This is about a little old lady that wants to keep the deer out of her garden,and not kill them. Not sure how that is being direspectful to wildlife? The lady has 11 dogs, 20 horses, 9 cats, 20+ gineau hens, 12 song birds, 4 chickens, 7 ducks, 2 goats, and a friggin rooster.... I think she cares about animals



Styg

[Muzikman]

Then let the dogs out, that will keep the deer away.

[rx2]

If you don't like the thought of his grandmother shooting deer with a pellet gun, it is an aesthetic problem, and nothing more. If you think that it is going to cause a rash of kids shooting their cats, because he posted, then you don't know kids very well, as it isn't something novel to them. I am sure there is no kid who would have an epiphany from reading a message board, and one day say "gee, I have never thought of shooting a cat." It isn't a novel concept.

Are there more effective ways to control deer? Perhaps. You have a right to say that there may be better ways, and that you feel badly for deer. But for anyone to say, objectively, that another person is wrong to try and ward of deer with a non-lethal projectile (or anything else) is rubbish. It is something that is purely subjective, and aesthetic issue. There are no logical grounds for stating that it is cruel, unreasonable, or anything of the nature.

[Warwitch]

Have you tried claymore's? Deer are suckers for a tripwire

[Toll]

Load some potatos.

[warbeak2099]

It's just sick to shoot an animal without killing it. If you're going to shoot at an animal, grow up, get a hunting license, and eat the meat that you kill. Shooting animals with pb and bb guns is for prepubescent 12yos who don't know the meaning of responsibility.

Seriously, set up deterrents or something like that. Do it for your grandma and be done with it. I'm a pro-gun conservative and I even think it's sick to shoot an animal just to hurt it. What the hell is so hard about setting deterrents around the property? You've got arms (presumably), friggin use them.

[Rudz]

So you people would rather him kill the deer, rather than shoo them away? And btw styg wtf are the 11 dogs doing? I have 4 and if the breeze so much as blows wrong there all up and making a racket

[mr doo doo]

yo styg, i think your best solution is to either get a pump BB gun like what CKY_Alliance said. i was in your mother-in-law's position once with a deer and some possums. used my cheap spring KWA glock that was really good and shot them away. they never came back after that :) shot them like in the back area, almost near the butt (didnt want to get them blind or anything), and i also used biodegradable bb's.

yea, blah blah blah, its cruel, ehhhhh, but im not an animal freak and im not SEVERELY inuring them (or killing), so i think its alright. good luck styg.

[BigEvil]

Hey Styg, I wonder if you could get those pepper balls and try them? Or how about salt loads for the shot gun?

[EPIC_Vader]

think 350 FPS would be enough to do the job?


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As far as the morality debate....IMO hitting them with an airsoft pellet is more humane than shooting them with a lethal weapon. Especially if you aren't able to skin and butcher the meat.
Airsoft pellets won't do lasting damage (eye shots aside, but if you're aiming for the hindquarters, shouldn't be a problem).

[MANN]

BB/Pelet/Paintball/Airsoft will not work

I have family in Northern PA. A very very very rural part of PA. They have deer problems all of the time. You can shoot the deer every night for a month, and they will keep coming back if you have food (flowers, corn, clover, really anything better than grass). One of my uncles hunts from his back porch (literally).

My grandmother sounds alot like your mother-in-law. She has probally over an acre of gardens in her back yard. The best way to keep the deer out of the yard is to spread human hair around the garden. Go to the barber shop, and ask for a bag of it. They usually just give it away. The deer smell the scent, and are afraid to get anywhere near it.

edit: windchimes/noise makers also work great.

[mr doo doo]

^^ oh gosh... maybe it was the hair part that scared them away from my yard, not the bb's