need a powerful Airsoft gun

[rx2]

It's just sick to shoot an animal without killing it. If you're going to shoot at an animal, grow up, get a hunting license, and eat the meat that you kill. Shooting animals with pb and bb guns is for prepubescent 12yos who don't know the meaning of responsibility.

Seriously, set up deterrents or something like that. Do it for your grandma and be done with it. I'm a pro-gun conservative and I even think it's sick to shoot an animal just to hurt it. What the hell is so hard about setting deterrents around the property? You've got arms (presumably), friggin use them.

The only thing I shoot are targets. I have never hunted in my life, as it simply brings me no pleasure. But, I am not morally superior to hunters. There is no logical way to come to that conclusion. You FEEL it is sick, or irresponsible to deter an animal with a NON-LETHAL, although stinging manner. But, really, there is no objective reasoning that demonstrates that his grandmother is "wrong" to do it. Again, it is purely aesthetic, and for every person who says it is sick. you will find one who says it isn't. Why are you right in this matter? It is all subjective, and a matter of opinion. Your manner of reasoning is no different than PETA, ALF, and the like.

By the way, there are a lot of people who would claim that it is highly immature to run around a bunch of inflated tubes, or playing war in the woods, while shooting each other with little balls filled with paint. Silly, isn't it?

[SR_matt]

k well first off we are going to go over conditioning

if a deer walks into his yard and finds food it will come back,, if a deer tries to come into his yard and it gets hit with something that it doesnt like its going to run away, after a few times i will remember that that area gets it shot and not go into it. psych 101 right there

ooo paintball guns arent meant to shoot animals... i guess some one hasnt paid any attention to the original markers. do i support shooting random animals, no, but if they are a pest and you dont kill or cause damage to them other than they get a little sting, go for it.

if it was my situation i have enough friends that hunt a lot that i could get them to clear out the deer and get some meat out of the deal for my self but that doesnt seem to be a good situation for this.

also lets be honest about this, is mom really going to be able to hit a deer easily with a paintball gun? are the deer really going to be close enough that she can shoot them and it even hurt much before the get scared off?

shooting a deer with a paintball gun is nothing like shooting it with a hunting rifle for S's&G's and not using the deer


they have bear deterrents that are paintball sized balls that get shot out, that or if they have a sprinkler system they might be able to set it to come on every once in a while and just give a little spray that would startle the deer. IIRC there might also be a deterrent that has a frequency humans cant hear but will make the deer go away, not sure how well it works but it might.

-matt

[Coralis]

I live out in the country and use the paintball gun for all sorts of critter control you hit once or twice and learn real fast not to come around .... also after they bit hit a couple of times dry firing becomes quite effective.

[geekwarrior]

its immoral/cruel to shoot a deer with an airsoft or paintball gun?

[Swampy]

What kind of flowers are they eating? I know Marigolds (any variety) scent is a natural repellent against some critters with sensitive smell i.e. rabbits, chipmunks, squirrels.

Edit: If that doesn't work I got a 30-06 and willing to make a road trip.

[SR_matt]

^^ in my yard the deer would come in and eat the ones that they liked even though the ones that are supposed to "repel" them were literally right net to the ones they ate. i dont think any plants will really do much to keep them away just from what i have seen at least in my area

-matt

[Swampy]

Did you try baiting?

[rifleman wi]

i second this, my M1 Garand is getting antsy for deer season..

Edit: If that doesn't work I got a 30-06 and willing to make a road trip.

[eric_503]

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...AAESBE%2eodAY_


problem solved

i dont think half of you guys saying "dont shoot the deer" have been shot by an airsoft gun that goes 300fps....it doesnt hurt and the deer wouldnt feel any more then a soft flick just enough to scare them

you could probably even dry fire a paintball gun without a barrel and hopper and they would go away

[DevilMan]

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/...AAESBE%2eodAY_


problem solved

i dont think half of you guys saying "dont shoot the deer" have been shot by an airsoft gun that goes 300fps....it doesnt hurt and the deer wouldnt feel any more then a soft flick just enough to scare them

you could probably even dry fire a paintball gun without a barrel and hopper and they would go away

But what fun would that be????

I think the sound would scare them off more than the feel of the pellet as well. All those here that say it's wrong to shoot them with the paint or the airsoft obviously have not dealt with many troublesome critters... Where I grew up we were allowed to shoot them with real guns!!!! Because I don't care what you think you know or what you think the deer feel... but a herd of 30-40 deer and level a field full of soybeans!!!!

So the paint would carry the most weight and let them feel the sting a bit more than the airsoft me thinks....

Also why don't some of the naysayers try and found out how many forestry service and vet types use rubber bullets to keep troublesome critters away from places!!!!!

I mean come on already....

DM

[StygShore]

ded dear

So you people would rather him kill the deer, rather than shoo them away? And btw styg wtf are the 11 dogs doing? I have 4 and if the breeze so much as blows wrong there all up and making a racket

7 welsh corgis - think full sized dog with no legs, 2 14yr old goldens, and a 15 year old blue healer/cattle dog mix.... the corgis bark all the time, I think the deer are used to it.

As far as deterrents, electric fences, normal fences are the best they can do, they sit on 25 acres with about 12 of it as "living space"

If they wanted to hunt or kill them for the meat ( again, not big meat eaters ), as I said they could probably just use the 30-06 hanging on the wall in their back rom, or one of the other 3 rifles he has back there ( forget the types )

Guess I really didnt think about the mass of a paintball vs a pellet from an airsoft gun - I am guessing a 350 fps pellet would not hurt near as much as a 300 fps paintball just based on pure mass alone would it?

I was just trying to keep things simple for them, so they don't have to go into town to get CO2 fills and paintballs all the time.

I was looking at that propane pump from tippmann for them even - seems like a perfect fit for what they need and he has crates with about 50+ propane tanks in his garage ( Am I going to be given a lecture in storage of pressurized gas cylinders in an enclosed residential area now? )

Thanks for your help, those that helped, I think I am gogin to have to see what we got lying around as far as rebuildable pro-ams or something at the field this weekend and I know that Hotspot paint from Wallyworld keeps for months at a time

Styg

[Severe]

Easy solution. Plant a habanero plant on each corner of their garden. It helps keep everything out. And as a bonus, you can make some kicking salsa.

Seriously, this works like a champ. No shooting required.

[Muzikman]

All I am saying, it's not going to help, and all it is doing is showing kids that it's ok to shoot wildlife with a paintball gun. But again, this board seems to be filled with more idiots than anything. Oh well....

[Spider-TW]

All I am saying, it's not going to help, and all it is doing is showing kids that it's ok to shoot wildlife with a paintball gun. But again, this board seems to be filled with more idiots than anything. Oh well....

I take it you were not one of the kids that used to shoot each other with bb guns? Talk about shoot your eye out, "kid, you'll shoot his eye out". I take worse bruises for fun, and considering most wildlife comes with protective coats, it's really not much to ask of them as a form of communication.

SR_matt has a point. I remember in the 80's the only place to find a nelspot around Austin was from a feed supply store in El Paso. Some cows don't even notice a single shot, there are meaner flies.

[StygShore]

Easy solution. Plant a habanero plant on each corner of their garden. It helps keep everything out. And as a bonus, you can make some kicking salsa.

Seriously, this works like a champ. No shooting required.

Hey thats a good idea, those will grow in a very arid dry environment as well wont they? the ground out there gets so dry it cracks over 4 ft deep.


Styg