Is a Qloader worth it???

[mostpeople]

I wont install spyware aja quicktime on my machine, but I timed the first move 'swap one' and got around 9 seconds

And this is what they advertise! for most it will be longer, and if you drop the pod it would be shorter. But still lower capacity!

[maniacmechanic]

it all goes back to what you like or don't like . I have Mags set up with Q & halos , I rarly break paint in either , loading ;I try to load up during a lull in the battle if possible . As to the amount of paint to carry ; I allways get shot out before I use all my paint anyway , some of you make it sound like you play all day & never have to go out
If I remember the 1st post he was just looking for a little advice not a debate

[GoatBoy]

I wont install spyware aja quicktime on my machine, but I timed the first move 'swap one' and got around 9 seconds

And this is what they advertise! for most it will be longer, and if you drop the pod it would be shorter. But still lower capacity!

This was what I meant by "study".

If you had even analyzed that clip, you would realize that half the time of that swap was consumed by putting the pod back into his pack. If you don't put the pod back into your pack, then the reload time is more like 4-5 seconds, as illustrated by both this movie as well as the second movie that you refused to watch, citing "spyware" as your reason despite the fact that you can get non-apple quicktime alternatives to watch .mov files. This of course is going to spark the debate of "well I wouldn't want to leave my expensive pods out" (and then there's the question about how the q-pods are considered in official rules), but I have no problem treating a q-pod the same way I treat my regular pods.

maniacmechanic basically already made the point I was going to make regarding the "scenario walking" arguments. Unless scenario format has changed, I believe if you get shot, you're taking a walk. If you complete your mission, I think you're going to be taking a walk. If you fail your mission, I think you're going to be taking a walk. If shooting the breeze in the staging area is part of the fun, then I'm sure you don't even mind taking a walk back in the first place. It's not a "strawman" argument -- you guys are simply pretending that paint carrying capacity is pretty much always the excuse for what ails you. I'm saying that for every excuse you come up with, there are probably like 3 or 4 other reasons out there that will cause the same thing, and they're just as likely, unless you're just that good, and that driven to spend the maximum time on the field no matter what.

Past a certain paint carrying minimum threshold, which will vary from person to person, your equipment is not the long pole in the tent. You are. If you absolutely need more paint, then the qloader isn't for you. All these side arguments are as illogical as they are unnecessary. You don't have to justify needing more paint with reasons like, "well I don't like walking." If you need more paint, then you need more paint. That's it.




As a word of practical advice for anyone out there who's still thinking about it: perhaps the thing to do is to simply judge the amount of paint you truly use (oh here we go with the whole "studying" thing again). Estimate how many q-pods you'd likely be comfortable carrying with you, and simply carry only that much paint when you walk out. Check how much you are carrying when you walk back to the staging area. That should pretty much make your decision for you.

[Anjin3515]

Again I all comes back to what you prefer...
no matter what is fast to re-load,
no matter how much paint you should/could take on the field
no matter how many trips off the field

its what you personally will feel comfortable with.

I myself, and I speak only for me, think 500 rounds is more then enough to carry (that 5 Q-pods).

If...more like when it seems...I ditch my Q...its going to be because I am frustrated at getting it to work. It has nothing to do with re-load times or paint capacity.

The Q-Loader is just one of those strange products that seem to be "meant" for some people and not for others.



To the original poster I would offer you these questions to consider....

What is your playing style and how much paint do you think is enough to carry for you to be comfortable?
Do you mind tinkering around to get something to work?
Do you mind having to be a little more careful with your pods ($20 a pop for Q)?
Do you mind having to learn the "art" of loading a Q-pod?

My best advice based only on my experience...and certainly not the experience of all Q owners is this....The Q-Loader is not plug and play. You HAVE to tinker with it to get it to work just right. Loading each pod CAN be fast....but its an "art" you have to learn. The Q just is not meant foe everyone. It can be a great hopper...but it is quirky, has built in limitations, and there is a learning curve to it.

Now you must think and decide if those things are worth it to you.

[Skoad]

Loading them is not bad at all. Especially if you already have some sort of agitated/motorized hopper. On mine I just took an old ULE body feedneck and attatched it to a loading crank cap. Slip on a hopper w/balls and crank away.


The pain is when somethings goes wrong with the pods. Cleaning sucks, disassembly/reassembly is also a pain. And I have a few pods that i never really could fix again. (though I didn't try very hard)

[mostpeople]

This was what I meant by "study".

If you had even analyzed that clip, you would realize that half the time of that swap was consumed by putting the pod back into his pack. If you don't put the pod back into your pack, then the reload time is more like 4-5 seconds, as illustrated by both this movie as well as the second movie that you refused to watch, citing "spyware" as your reason despite the fact that you can get non-apple quicktime alternatives to watch .mov files. This of course is going to spark the debate of "well I wouldn't want to leave my expensive pods out" (and then there's the question about how the q-pods are considered in official rules), but I have no problem treating a q-pod the same way I treat my regular pods.

maniacmechanic basically already made the point I was going to make regarding the "scenario walking" arguments. Unless scenario format has changed, I believe if you get shot, you're taking a walk. If you complete your mission, I think you're going to be taking a walk. If you fail your mission, I think you're going to be taking a walk. If shooting the breeze in the staging area is part of the fun, then I'm sure you don't even mind taking a walk back in the first place. It's not a "strawman" argument -- you guys are simply pretending that paint carrying capacity is pretty much always the excuse for what ails you. I'm saying that for every excuse you come up with, there are probably like 3 or 4 other reasons out there that will cause the same thing, and they're just as likely, unless you're just that good, and that driven to spend the maximum time on the field no matter what.

Past a certain paint carrying minimum threshold, which will vary from person to person, your equipment is not the long pole in the tent. You are. If you absolutely need more paint, then the qloader isn't for you. All these side arguments are as illogical as they are unnecessary. You don't have to justify needing more paint with reasons like, "well I don't like walking." If you need more paint, then you need more paint. That's it.

As a word of practical advice for anyone out there who's still thinking about it: perhaps the thing to do is to simply judge the amount of paint you truly use (oh here we go with the whole "studying" thing again). Estimate how many q-pods you'd likely be comfortable carrying with you, and simply carry only that much paint when you walk out. Check how much you are carrying when you walk back to the staging area. That should pretty much make your decision for you.

whatever

I hope the Origional Poster understands that he probably doesnt want a Q-loader. The fact of the matter is, if you dont KNOW that you want a q-loader - you probably in fact dont want a q-loader.

[turbo chicken]

speaking of qloader ... i just saw a very intersting underfeeding body in development specifically for the qloader

[Skoad]

I made a 'bottom feeder' mag a while back for fun. Figured they would get around someday to putting something like it in production, its only logical for a Qloader.

[Spider-TW]

speaking of qloader ... i just saw a very intersting underfeeding body in development specifically for the qloader

That would be neat. I thought about it on a mag for second, until I realized the feed port is normally right over the trigger. A body conversion and pneu conversion together would put you in a position that you would be building something totally different anyway. That's not an add-on, more like LK-13's and [Dox] custom rifles.

Got a pic or a link?

[Warwitch]

speaking of qloader ... i just saw a very intersting underfeeding body in development specifically for the qloader

Yes, links to said body....

[Anjin3515]

from what I understand its going to be a body by Q with Tippmann internals....Ill try and link to it later...its in a protected thread so Id have to download the pic....

[Fantom]

Pics?

I made a 'bottom feeder' mag a while back for fun. Figured they would get around someday to putting something like it in production, its only logical for a Qloader.

We want pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[turbo chicken]

Pic of the body is in their forum ...

[Warwitch]

Pic of the body is in their forum ...

Eewwwww. Damn that thing is ugly

[Skoad]

We want pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only pics I had were hosted on my university webspace, when I graduated I backed up all my files and they wiped out the site. However it seems that I have lost them in a reformat somewhere along the line. It was at least 3 years ago when I did it, I doubt anyone on here has saved pics from it. It was also pretty roughly done, didn't ever get around to finishing but it did work!