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  • VeeWee
    Registered User
    • May 2006
    • 136

    #1

    A question about distance

    Take any current model high-end marker and an old mech Spyder Compact, both guns have the same barrel and both guns set to the same velocity, 275 fps. Shouldn't both guns shoot the same distance? If not, why not?
  • dyeforever
    Addicted User
    • Oct 2003
    • 764

    #2
    yes both guns will shoot the same distance.
    mag for now, mag forever

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    • anomoly40
      Giblet. Thats a funny word
      • Sep 2005
      • 287

      #3
      At the same speed and same elevation the balls will travel the same distance.

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      • Army
        Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

        • Oct 2000
        • 5785

        #4
        You could use a $10,000 solid gold Angel vs a tree branch slingshot, and get the same results.

        Both balls traveling the same speed, will travel the same distance.

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        • dyeforever
          Addicted User
          • Oct 2003
          • 764

          #5
          they make those?! where can i get one?



















          Ive always wanted a tree branch slingshot!
          mag for now, mag forever

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          • Stayhuge
            Registered User

            • Aug 2007
            • 1590

            #6
            Hi everyone, not that I don't agree with the physics of it, but why do I feel like I get out shot, distance wise, when I play in the woods with my buddies? We are all around the same velocity, and everyone is using 12-16 in barrels. I am shooting a ULE Custom, and they all shoot 98c's. We are all around the same velocity too.

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            • Andrewliu6294
              Nothing to do but wait.
              • Jul 2007
              • 258

              #7
              Originally posted by Stayhuge
              Hi everyone, not that I don't agree with the physics of it, but why do I feel like I get out shot, distance wise, when I play in the woods with my buddies? We are all around the same velocity, and everyone is using 12-16 in barrels. I am shooting a ULE Custom, and they all shoot 98c's. We are all around the same velocity too.
              the mass of the paintball you're using has some effect. I do believe that a heavier paintball traveling at 275fps will travel just slightly farther than a light one going at 275fps, due to it having more momentum.

              other than that, the only thing i can think of is your mindset.

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              • pmstc
                free at last
                • Jan 2008
                • 404

                #8
                Originally posted by Stayhuge
                Hi everyone, not that I don't agree with the physics of it, but why do I feel like I get out shot, distance wise, when I play in the woods with my buddies? We are all around the same velocity, and everyone is using 12-16 in barrels. I am shooting a ULE Custom, and they all shoot 98c's. We are all around the same velocity too.
                Your friends are cranking up their velocity on the field

                They're using 98c's you say? Do they have Flatline barrels? Because the backspin created by flatlines are the only legitimate way to shoot further at the same velocity. Otherwise either they're cheating or you're crazy

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                • lather
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 591

                  #9
                  Maybe you are shooting against the wind, or uphill or both? Other than a flatline on the 98's if all guns are at the same velocity, then distance would be equal..
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                  • IDriveBug
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 20

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pmstc
                    Your friends are cranking up their velocity on the field
                    Otherwise either they're cheating or you're crazy
                    LOL I almost replied the same earlier but thought it might start a BBQ. If your friends are like mine were back when we were in high school, i wouldnt be surprised if their post game chrono speed was different than their pre-game....

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                    • rawbutter
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1463

                      #11
                      Also, keep in mind that being "around the same velocity" is a relative term. If I'm shooting 270, and my buddy is shooting 280, that doesn't seem like much of a difference. However, let's say that we're trying to longball each other at maximum range where the paintball is in the air for two seconds. That difference of ten bps turns into his range advantage of ten or twenty feet... which can make a difference.

                      And let's not forget that some guns are... um.... less consistent than others. Automags on HPA tend to only fluxuate a few bps either way. Tippmanns and Spyders, on the other hand, can jump 10-15 fps between shots. If you're dueling with someone at long range, and he gets a random 15 fps spike in his velocity, then watch out!

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                      • teufelhunden
                        Registered Bamf
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 2691

                        #12
                        Just take advantage of your X-Valve's shoot up!
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                        • dixieoutfitter94
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 477

                          #13
                          If this is true then why do ions not go very far? How would one kind of marker go the same distance as the other but doesnt loose velocity?

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                          • craltal
                            MCB, baby...
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1452

                            #14
                            it's basic physics. Assuming things are equal (ball, barrel length, trajectory) the gun makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE when it comes to range. Setting flatline/ apex aside, if you are seeing a difference, then there MUST be another factor, holding at a different angle, wind, a regulator fluctuation, a dirty barrel interior, uneven paint, etc.

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                            • B-Pow
                              patented being bad people
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 209

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dixieoutfitter94
                              If this is true then why do ions not go very far? How would one kind of marker go the same distance as the other but doesnt loose velocity?
                              ....um...what?

                              I happen to own an ion (it's sad I know...I'm sorry) and it shoots the same distance as any other gun on the field. I've also tested several other guns and they all have the same basic distance +/- depending on all other varibles (paint variation from ball to ball, wind....etc)

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