A question about distance

[Toll]

Alot of it is perception. If you were on the recieving end of your own shot you might think they were a bit more equal. This is really a big deal with renters most of the time. When you're playing you don't feel bounces that hit them or really know how close the balls are going to them. You do know for a fact how ever that they are getting too close to you.

1) Everyone is using the same paint
2) everyone has the exact same marker
3) Same barrel
4) Same velocity (before we even hand them out)

Like I said, the difference is mostly that of perception but there are a few things that change it

1) Wind
2) Reg spikes
3) Angle of marker
4) elevation

If this was conducted inside a building with no wind on level ground with measuring instruments you would find out pretty quickly that any distance gained by a marker over another would be no more than a foot and could be written off.

[VeeWee]

Thanks all! No difference in distance is what I was thinking. It would be interesting to see what a 10fps or 20fps difference with the same marker would do to the distance. Anyone ever do a test like this?

[rkjunior303]

Thanks all! No difference in distance is what I was thinking. It would be interesting to see what a 10fps or 20fps difference with the same marker would do to the distance. Anyone ever do a test like this?

i will save you the trouble. one will go a longer distance than the other.

[Army]

If this is true then why do ions not go very far? How would one kind of marker go the same distance as the other but doesnt loose velocity?

Ions I have test thrown, have traveled an average of 120ft.
M98's, being heavier, can be thrown an average of 100ft.
Angels have wings, so they usually go to the 1100ft mark, but that would out of bounds on the most generous scenario field.
DYE markers are named for their throw distance: DM-4 goes 400ft, DM-5 goes to 500ft, etc.



The means of acceleration means nothing. If the balls are launched at identical speed, they will go identical distances. Period.

[SocialD]

Same paint + same speed + same elevation = same distance?

Next thing you guys are going to try to pull is that closed bolt markers aren't any more accurate than other markers.

[RRfireblade]

Paint size , fill (weight) and quality of shell can make a noticable difference in range.

[anomoly40]

And trees help shorten your distance too.

[tech-chan]

Also depending on how long your body is, the paintball may go less or more distance as affected by the lentgh of the breech.

[maniacmechanic]

Ions I have test thrown, have traveled an average of 120ft.
M98's, being heavier, can be thrown an average of 100ft.
Angels have wings, so they usually go to the 1100ft mark, but that would out of bounds on the most generous scenario field.
DYE markers are named for their throw distance: DM-4 goes 400ft, DM-5 goes to 500ft, etc.



The means of acceleration means nothing. If the balls are launched at identical speed, they will go identical distances. Period.

ROFL : LMAO

[Army]

Also depending on how long your body is, the paintball may go less or more distance as affected by the lentgh of the breech.

Ouch......no.
Dynamics inside the gun, mean NOTHING outside the gun. All chronograph readings are taken OUTSIDE of any influence the marker produced. If the ball is going 300fps from an Emag, and 300fps from Nolan Ryan..................then both balls are going 300fps, period.

The weight difference in balls is so miniscule as to not have much, if any, effect at the chrono or downrange, especially at the total flight distance of paintballs (roughly 100yds at 300fps)

...and no, balls do not wobble like a water balloon in flight.

...and no, balls do not deform like a water balloon inside the barrel.

[RRfireblade]

The weight difference in balls is so miniscule as to not have much, if any, effect at the chrono or downrange, especially at the total flight distance of paintballs (roughly 100yds at 300fps)

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My experience and past kinetic and trajectory testing for both law enforcement and military trainers has shown otherwise. In fact , down range the differences are actually at their greatest. I've seen nearly a gram difference between certain brand balls, that's almost a 3rd of thier entire weight. FYI , the average seems to be around 3.2-3.3 grams but I've had them come it at just under 3 and upto about 3.9. In addition to variation in overall sizes from a full .700 to under .660. Compounded by the variation in seam quality and uniformity the effects the overall size at the poles and rate(or ratio I suppose) of deviation between the two.

IMO. :)

But I am open to any alternative findings.

[RRfireblade]

I guess I should have added how it applies here.

"Generally" , higher quality paint is smaller and heavier with less seam.

Cheaper paintballs are usually larger and lighter and less uniform around the poles.

Generally.

[ta2maki]

I should add that longer guns and barrels will shoot farther than shorter guns/barrels. WHAT? If I have a gun setup with a 6 inch barrel and then switch and set up to a 20 inch barrel. You fill find that my shots land approximately 14 inches further(20-6=14). Likewise extending my arms when I shoot will make the paint go farther than if I shoot with my arms folded.

[Lenny]

Theoretically, if two shooters were to stand in the exact same spot, shooting at the same velocity, with the same paintball weight, and no wind, a 20" barrel will shoot 4" farther than a 16" barrel.

[pmstc]

I should add that longer guns and barrels will shoot farther than shorter guns/barrels. WHAT? If I have a gun setup with a 6 inch barrel and then switch and set up to a 20 inch barrel. You fill find that my shots land approximately 14 inches further(20-6=14). Likewise extending my arms when I shoot will make the paint go farther than if I shoot with my arms folded.

Actually that's not true. You would have to rechrono for that to be true. If you switch from a 6 inch barrel to a 20 inch barrel, the velocity will most likely decrease because of the added friction of 14" of tubing.