how is AGD doing

[dixieoutfitter94]

I never heard of a mag until I used one and I bought it. I think if more people knew about mags then more people would have them. I played at a speedball field with a classic and one kid asked if it was home made. I wanted to slap him but he never heard of AGD. I am confident that if more people knew about AGD, then more people would own them. Think about it; mags are better then alot of high-end markers out there. Why would you buy a pm7 if you knew that an emag would be way better?

[Don Carnage]

2) Whether their current financial capability will allow dollars to be used for R&D, testing, and marketing new paintball related products

What R&D testing would be needed to sell an intro-level Tac One with a Classic Valve?

The internal dimentions and specs for the bodies are known. I can assume that the majority of R&D costs in that department are already spent. Changing the exterior cosmetics of that existing sluggo design is what I'm suggesting.

[SkinnyHare]

I never heard of a mag until I used one and I bought it. I think if more people knew about mags then more people would have them. I played at a speedball field with a classic and one kid asked if it was home made. I wanted to slap him but he never heard of AGD. I am confident that if more people knew about AGD, then more people would own them. Think about it; mags are better then alot of high-end markers out there. Why would you buy a pm7 if you knew that an emag would be way better?

i run into that all the time where i am. six to seven years ago, half the player base had a mag of one kind or another. now, nobody even knows what one is, all you see now are cheapo wal-mart guns and 98s and some A-5s. whenever i play, everyone asks what it is that im shooting. they've never even heard of Airgun Designs. they also can't seem to fathom the idea that one of my really nice ones, when brand new, would have fetched the price of about five of their markers.

owning kids with their mil-simmed A-5s and two foot barrels with my little old classic RT + 8" minimag barrel just feels good. god help them when i finally drag the E-mag out to the field.

i miss the good ol' days of AGD

[DanMan]

an integrated hopper and warp would be cool

[RogueFactor]

I really wonder if this same question is ever asked of the maker of the Phantom @ CCI? Or the maker of the Blazer at Palmer's? Both great markers.

Does anyone ask how they are doing? Or why they dont come out with a new body design every year? Or is this sort of thing limited to just AGD?

[RRfireblade]

People ask about Palmers all the time.

As for CCI , Mike is still selling way more guns than he can build and most people that ever called to place an order (direct from CCI) find that out the hard way. He doesn't come up with many new things because cause he simple does not have the time but he would love to.

[Hgblues]

HEY WAIT A MINUTE!! Does this mean Tom won't be throwing me any sponsorship perc's for using my picture and testimony all these years on the AGD site to promote the Warpfeeds?

[pyrodragon]

While the product itself is great, AGD needs to produce a new body.
I know people get in a tizzy that cosmetic changes do not make a 'new' gun. But if you pay attention to the popularity if the minimag, tac one, Deadl Wind and Xmagterror's bodies, it becomes pretty apparent that people will pay to have a different look.

Look at the tippmann A5 or X7. People love those things because of their cosmetic upgrades.

One change that had already been mentioned and is a very cheap 'new product,' is to sell Tac Ones with classic valves for much of the scenario market. Being a scenario player, I will tell you that automags are popular because of their simple design and extreme reliability.

Also, AGD should have some appearance at Oklahoma D-Day or any of the larger scenario events. As i said, there are a lot of mags in the scenario crowd.

AGD's shortcoming is not product, it's the 'out of sight, ou of mind' factor that makes people occasionally ask if they are still around.

As AGD's new product that will put them back in the fore-front of paintball players' minds, I suggest the ULE minimag. (just because I want one)

i think it's up to the players to show the true power of mags. i love playing with my workhorse. RT Pro ULE Custom with a Z-Grip. i get all kinds of questions about mags and i represent the company to the best of my abilities. i will also just hand my gun over to any player and say have a run. but everywhere i go i get asked about my mag and so does my friend. we have had several different guns in our stables but we will never get rid of our mags. also Automags do show up at D-Day. i know Custar is a mag fan and also on the board. so it's just word of mouth. have too kill a lot of rumors too.

[BAZOOKA_Boy]

As for CCI , Mike is still selling way more guns than he can build and most people that ever called to place an order (direct from CCI) find that out the hard way. He doesn't come up with many new things because cause he simple does not have the time but he would love to.

well he has something new (E phantom), its very different, though it would be much too expensive, and not even competitive with todays markers...plus its a really ugly piece of equipment, its his semi auto "phantom" its not really a phantom though. Its a crazy rotobreach thing, but shoots a max of 9 or so BPS, which would be an issue with most modern players. he actually mentioned something about this last time I was in there dropping off parts, though as a smat guy told me once, keep it simple stupid!

Mike has no time at all, true; been there, he works constantly, and its a one man show...though he stays in business, which is strange to me that AGD cannot, considering how little the phantom is advertised, I remember at least seeing tac-one ads when I was looking for a new gun a while ago...I wish AGD could make a comeback, though I know its very unlikely, mags are just such incredible markers.

[Chronobreak]

mikes also done some really cool new annos, and few minor things like offering the guaged valved himself.

hes always working on stuff and as bazooka said hes got alot of stuff on the shelf

[DanMan]

[Maghog]

Did anyone ever stop to think that AGD might be right where it wants to be and not where we want it to be? They might be happy to have the thousand or so loyal customers that they do, always buying parts kits and other accessories and all the while not having to invest huge costs in R&D and manufacturing. I'd rather just see the Mag live on the way it is rather than see it die because of risky ventures.
Dan@Triggernomics

[warbeak2099]

The gun. Agd has the valve down

Eh, I disagree. The valve could use a more efficient redesign. It really does suck to not be able to shoot deeper than 800psi into a tank. You get so much less out of your fill.

[rawbutter]

3. Make a new E-mag with eyes for under $700
4. Clean up the company website and store.
5. AGDvertise at special ops events.
6. Get back into tourneys....

I like all your points, but I think #2 is the best. Can you imagine a mass-produced RPG vert-framed mag with a karta body and a G-Force pneumatic trigger (if G-Force ever gets around to shipping the darn things)? And then, could you imagine AGD actually advertising said marker? They would sell like hot-cakes! And if they were mass-produced, AGD could probably offer them for around $800... which is not unreasonable considering the high-end market nowadays.

I know all those guys with rare bodies would be a little miffed because... well.. they wouldn't have super rare bodies anymore. Nevertheless, it would definitely help AGD out.

[RavishingEddie]

I think we should keep the Emag platform and simply R&D power sources. Emag batteries should not have to be as big anymore and capacitors could always be used to help.