Whats with kids and there Fiberwrapped tanks these days?

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  • jonny72888
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 132

    #31
    i would say about 75% of the time i do not have a cover. because i have a mag and i will need to fill my tank afer every game and the place i go to makes you take your cover off to check the date everytime you go to fill, and my cover doesnt come off all to good so its just more of a pain for me. also i can not find just a normal cover anymore they are all so colorful i just want a nice plain black one for my 88.

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    • drg
      Half-cocked
      • Oct 2004
      • 1112

      #32
      Kalibur covers are very thin and see-through, so there really is no excuse.
      View my feedback here

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      • jonny72888
        Registered User
        • Jan 2004
        • 132

        #33
        Originally posted by drg
        Kalibur covers are very thin and see-through, so there really is no excuse.
        where could i find one?
        see through enough to read dates?

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        • WickedKlown2
          Hellions ODB 130
          • Dec 2007
          • 332

          #34
          Originally posted by jonny72888
          where could i find one?
          see through enough to read dates?
          Here's the place to pick up a Kalibur Cover : 68 Kalibur Cover

          Hope this helps out and they are only $15.95....
          Last edited by WickedKlown2; 03-04-2008, 05:15 PM.

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          • jonny72888
            Registered User
            • Jan 2004
            • 132

            #35
            they dont have an 88.
            i dont mind not having one. just dont set your gun down on rocks.

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            • WickedKlown2
              Hellions ODB 130
              • Dec 2007
              • 332

              #36
              Originally posted by jonny72888
              they dont have an 88.
              i dont mind not having one. just dont set your gun down on rocks.
              Ask and yea shall receive ... I Found the 88 Cover at the same site for $12.95 : 88 Kalibur Cover

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              • SR_matt
                Santa Sucks
                • Jun 2006
                • 1072

                #37
                the tank is not going to get damaged much more easily to the point of failing hydro with out that little thin piece of neoprene over it. fire fighters and scuba divers use bare tanks all the time and have no issues (heck paintball tanks still have one of the highest pass rates for tanks). if you hit something hard enough to damage the tank a neoprene cover is not going to soften the blow that much.

                now one of the reasons kiddies and some pros do it is because you can wipe a hit more easily off a smooth glassy surface than off neoprene, simple as that. others because its cooler and can show off what tank they have but the wiping is the biggest thing.

                now i wouldnt play with out a cover because i dont want to scratch up my tank but it really shouldnt matter that much for safety

                -matt

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                • drg
                  Half-cocked
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1112

                  #38
                  Note: What firefighters and scuba divers do with their tanks is not nearly as much of an impact risk as paintball. That said I have heard reports that SCBA tanks do take quite a beating.

                  You are right about the neoprene cover not providing all that much protection. One of my tanks once dropped off a picnic-type table and picked up a pretty deep chip from hitting a rock. It had a Dye rhino cover on it but the rock pretty much went right through the neoprene. I can't really figure out how it actually hit the neoprene part though, since it was very near the hard rubber end cap; must have been a pointy rock. Ended up sending it out for hydro and they just epoxied over it.

                  On the other hand the kalibur type cover is VERY tough, I have seen an 88 tank pop the rupture disc and go flying off the same table, slam on the ground and roll around without so much as a scratch.

                  I still use neoprene type covers though.
                  View my feedback here

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                  • halB
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 953

                    #39
                    Originally posted by drg
                    Note: What firefighters and scuba divers do with their tanks is not nearly as much of an impact risk as paintball. That said I have heard reports that SCBA tanks do take quite a beating.

                    You are right about the neoprene cover not providing all that much protection. One of my tanks once dropped off a picnic-type table and picked up a pretty deep chip from hitting a rock. It had a Dye rhino cover on it but the rock pretty much went right through the neoprene. I can't really figure out how it actually hit the neoprene part though, since it was very near the hard rubber end cap; must have been a pointy rock. Ended up sending it out for hydro and they just epoxied over it.
                    You're wrong in both of these paragraphs.

                    Firefighters wear their tanks into burning buildings to help them breathe. Are you REALLY going to say that going into a burning building is not as much of an impact risk as playing paintball?

                    Your second paragraph doesn't make much sense. Why WOULD you expect a thin neoprene cover to protect against impact? It is clearly only there to protect against scratches, which if they made it through the resin layer would destroy the tank.

                    I think we all know by now how strong that resin is.

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                    • SR_matt
                      Santa Sucks
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1072

                      #40
                      i would be a little surprised if i had that noticeable damage froma a tank falling off a bench and getting a chip out of the resin.

                      and im not sure how yut ment your last comment but that resin is tough extremely tough

                      -matt

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                      • jonny72888
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 132

                        #41
                        put a tank cover on you hand and hit it with a hammer... then take the cover off and hit your hand again, which one hurt more?
                        i think the covers are more for scratches

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                        • pyrodragon
                          Retired Mag Lover
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 224

                          #42
                          Originally posted by jonny72888
                          put a tank cover on you hand and hit it with a hammer... then take the cover off and hit your hand again, which one hurt more?
                          i think the covers are more for scratches
                          wowzer my tank cried when i pulled out the mallet. guess it didn't like my testing methods. lol...
                          shoot you later
                          i play for the game not the fame.

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                          • drg
                            Half-cocked
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1112

                            #43
                            Originally posted by halB
                            You're wrong in both of these paragraphs.

                            Firefighters wear their tanks into burning buildings to help them breathe. Are you REALLY going to say that going into a burning building is not as much of an impact risk as playing paintball?
                            Yes I am going to say that. In paintball the tank is for one thing smaller and more easily carried around and (potentially) dropped. During play it is not secured to the body but carried in hand and literally hurled toward the ground during dives.

                            Originally posted by halB
                            Your second paragraph doesn't make much sense. Why WOULD you expect a thin neoprene cover to protect against impact? It is clearly only there to protect against scratches, which if they made it through the resin layer would destroy the tank.

                            I think we all know by now how strong that resin is.
                            I don't know if you've owned a premium cover but the material is not THAT thin, and they have many rubber protrusions/a rubber endcap that would be difficult for things to to penetrate.
                            View my feedback here

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                            • drg
                              Half-cocked
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1112

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SR_matt
                              i would be a little surprised if i had that noticeable damage froma a tank falling off a bench and getting a chip out of the resin.

                              and im not sure how yut ment your last comment but that resin is tough extremely tough

                              -matt
                              Indeed, it had a small chip that went to the fiber layer. I was a bit surprised myself that it happened, however, it doesn't surprise me that contact with rocks from that height against bare tank would result in chips and scratches.

                              The resin ... is about as strong as high quality epoxy (since that's what it basically is). Nothing magical about that, it's plastic.
                              View my feedback here

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                              • SR_matt
                                Santa Sucks
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 1072

                                #45
                                Originally posted by drg
                                Yes I am going to say that. In paintball the tank is for one thing smaller and more easily carried around and (potentially) dropped. During play it is not secured to the body but carried in hand and literally hurled toward the ground during dives.



                                I don't know if you've owned a premium cover but the material is not THAT thin, and they have many rubber protrusions/a rubber endcap that would be difficult for things to to penetrate.

                                a tank being dropped a max of 3 feet weighting less than 2 lbs is a lot less force than a tank getting smacked around and having falling debris fall on it. the heat is also a huge factor. paintball tanks are noted as having the lowest failure rate in hydro testing compared to the others fields of compressed cylinders so that right away says they are damaged much less.

                                im not saying that i dont believe it would chip just saying that if it happened to me i would be surprised but in al seriousness if thanks covers really protected the tank that much the tanks would come with them.

                                ya the resin is "just a plastic" but it is a very strong plastic, try working fiber glass or a resin impregnated wood (aka stabilized) may not be as hard as working steel but its not as soft as a lot of other things.

                                -matt

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