My last day...

[alooney11]

I guess i relate those days when i used to flip through the pages of theose b&w 888paintball mags as care-free days. I was only in middle school then and the hot guns of those days were out of my reach. I remember when apoc2ks were 400 bucks, and just thinking wow if I could only afford that. Now I look upon the withered husk of a once great outdoor recreation and can only be disappointed but what has happened. There is no peking order these days. When I was 13 I had a spyder now you have 13 year olds running around with angels and ions. It just seemed that there was an unwritten code back then, the old patriarchs had the sweet guns and us kids could only wish we had them. I just think kids these days dont have anything to look forward to in the sport because they come into the sport playing with the newest and the best guns. Its a shame becuase they have nothing to look forward to as the years go by. I look on ebay dumbfounded at how cheap things are these days, I hate to sound so melodramatic but I feel its the truth.

[halB]

So by your logic, a pump mag isn't a pump, an e/x-mag isn't an electro? Electro doesn't mean high end, it means that it's electronic..that's all. So the toyota camry hybrid isn't a hybrid because it only had an internal combustion engine in it before?

Ok, it's obvious you've been playing for a month. And the same to all those who say "but spyders are electros!11" Guess what, electro does not stand for electronic. It stands for electropneumatic.

Is a pump mag a pump? HELL NO!
It's an automag that has a wave spring on it which hampers the design of the gun from working properly, needing a pump to reset the bolt. If it was a pump gun, it wouldn't have any spring on the bolt.

An e-mag is not an electro. It is a pancake sear tripper. A very GOOD pancake sear tripper. But it is still fully electronic, not electropneumatic. If it was electropneumatic, it wouldn't need a freaking huge battery pack, would it? You see, if you think these things through you wouldn't waist my time here!

Ok, your an idiot. An electro is any gun that is electronically assisted in operation. A cocker with an electronic frame and stuff is electronic. Also, if your saying spyders cant be electronic guns either, youve gone beyond idiot status and jumped to straight up dumbass. Stating that a gun isnt and can never be an electro because it wasnt originally electronic is incorrect any way you look at it so let it go kid. Odds are your just some punk kid who floats around on forums and doesnt really know anything about paintball or even play for that matter.

HAHAHA. Wow, you were not around when those electronic frames for spyders first came out.

[mpsd]

Now, WHAT?!?!!?

Guess what, electro does not stand for electronic. It stands for electropneumatic.

OK, english may not be my first language but from what I've studied so far, electro is a short for either ELECTROnic or ELECTROpneumatic. Both of them could be called electros without any question.

Oh, and by the way, I've been playing paintball since 1991, ok? And I've always read everyone calling those first Spyders with electronic frames as electros. And, yes, I'm speaking about those that looked like a Spyder on the top and a PEV's Shocker on the bottom. Hey, and guess what about the pump Mag: it is a pump and it has always been referred to as a pump. What makes it a pump is the fact that it needs a pump to be operated. End point. It's not a matter of being a Nelson style, PMI/Sheridan or even a Semi with a bolt stick problem, converted to use a pump. It is a pump for having a pump handle.

Hahahahaha that's the stupidest thread EVER!!! It missed it's focus so looooooooooooong ago that it should be not only closed but also burried

Now, please, do me a favor: stop posting on this forum. Go to the Nation and keep posting things like "first post" after every news posts (duh). Go home, go fish or even go play some paintball but, please, stop posting crap. Nobody is interested to know if you are the paintball living encyclopedia.

Thanks.

[Chaos_Theory!]

Ok, it's obvious you've been playing for a month. And the same to all those who say "but spyders are electros!11" Guess what, electro does not stand for electronic. It stands for electropneumatic.

Is a pump mag a pump? HELL NO!
It's an automag that has a wave spring on it which hampers the design of the gun from working properly, needing a pump to reset the bolt. If it was a pump gun, it wouldn't have any spring on the bolt.

An e-mag is not an electro. It is a pancake sear tripper. A very GOOD pancake sear tripper. But it is still fully electronic, not electropneumatic. If it was electropneumatic, it wouldn't need a freaking huge battery pack, would it? You see, if you think these things through you wouldn't waist my time here!



HAHAHA. Wow, you were not around when those electronic frames for spyders first came out.

Your aguments are just making you look dumber and yes i was around when those spyder frames came out.

[michbich]

Ok, it's obvious you've been playing for a month. And the same to all those who say "but spyders are electros!11" Guess what, electro does not stand for electronic. It stands for electropneumatic.

Is a pump mag a pump? HELL NO!
It's an automag that has a wave spring on it which hampers the design of the gun from working properly, needing a pump to reset the bolt. If it was a pump gun, it wouldn't have any spring on the bolt.

An e-mag is not an electro. It is a pancake sear tripper. A very GOOD pancake sear tripper. But it is still fully electronic, not electropneumatic. If it was electropneumatic, it wouldn't need a freaking huge battery pack, would it? You see, if you think these things through you wouldn't waist my time here!



HAHAHA. Wow, you were not around when those electronic frames for spyders first came out.

Then stop wasting your time then. Because i think an electro means electronic, that means i've only played for 1 month? That's pure ignorance and BS. So take your personal attacks and arrogance elsewhere.

PS: Yes, I've been playing since 2001, i was there when those electric spyders came out. What's your point if you have one?

[mpsd]

Speaking of the first ELECTRONIC Spyders, meet the EM1 and it's description:

http://www.spyderzone.net/modules.ph...ticle&artid=17

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/376/

EM = Electronic Marker

[halB]

Speaking of the first ELECTRONIC Spyders, meet the EM1 and it's description:

http://www.spyderzone.net/modules.ph...ticle&artid=17

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/376/

EM = Electronic Marker

The em1 is an electro. Poor thing never stood a chance. It's sad, considering those fusions are basically the same thing, and for some reason they're actually respected.

If your point was that this electropneumatic marker is called an electronic marker, well, do you know about a little thing called marketing?


It's odd, three people are flaming me for posting "crap," and yet I have put up very well reasoned and well supported arguments, and all you guys are saying is I'm spamming and posting crap. Hmmm.... it's odd that all you haters don't post or know crap.

Oh, and dude from sal paulo brazil, why do I care what you think? You weren't in the country when the sport was invented. I don't care, and I'm not talking about, how things are in brazil. Now, go back and enjoy your rising country that will soon be the most influential country in south america.



The funniest thing is, this all started by me saying something in which I was patently wrong. Yet, not a single one of you insignificant haters out there corrected me. If ya'll were so smart, why didn't you know the answer that would completely shut me up? My friend told me what they did to cockers in 2k5:

They redesigned them from the ground up for electropneumatic operation! Internal cocking arm, no back block, basically every complaint I ever posted online about e-cockers when they first came out was fixed (which would mean I was right about those flaws to begin with). So it WAS designed solely for electropneumatic operation, which would make it an electro even by my very conservative and restrictive definition.

Jesus christ guys, the opportunity to show how I was wrong with my own logic was there the whole time, and all you guys could do is flame. You people are pathetic. I can see why no company ever consulted YOU guys about paintball equipment.

[varq]

i must admit I was not impressed with my EMAG it was heavy... I switched to the ULT and Intelliframe with an adjustable regulator... It shoots just as fast without worrying about the battery and the extra weight.... The Intelligrip and ULT with the adjustable tank is amazing!!!!!

[mpsd]

The em1 is an electro. Poor thing never stood a chance. It's sad, considering those fusions are basically the same thing, and for some reason they're actually respected.

If your point was that this electropneumatic marker is called an electronic marker, well, do you know about a little thing called marketing?


It's odd, three people are flaming me for posting "crap," and yet I have put up very well reasoned and well supported arguments, and all you guys are saying is I'm spamming and posting crap. Hmmm.... it's odd that all you haters don't post or know crap.

Oh, and dude from sal paulo brazil, why do I care what you think? You weren't in the country when the sport was invented. I don't care, and I'm not talking about, how things are in brazil. Now, go back and enjoy your rising country that will soon be the most influential country in south america.



The funniest thing is, this all started by me saying something in which I was patently wrong. Yet, not a single one of you insignificant haters out there corrected me. If ya'll were so smart, why didn't you know the answer that would completely shut me up? My friend told me what they did to cockers in 2k5:

They redesigned them from the ground up for electropneumatic operation! Internal cocking arm, no back block, basically every complaint I ever posted online about e-cockers when they first came out was fixed (which would mean I was right about those flaws to begin with). So it WAS designed solely for electropneumatic operation, which would make it an electro even by my very conservative and restrictive definition.

Jesus christ guys, the opportunity to show how I was wrong with my own logic was there the whole time, and all you guys could do is flame. You people are pathetic. I can see why no company ever consulted YOU guys about paintball equipment.

Ok... So, let's just stop flaming each other and let me ask you something: what do you do for a living? I mean, how do you get the means to play paintball, go out with your friend or maybe (sorry, don't know your age), put some food on the table for your wife and kids?

Just for curiosity...

[Dark Side]

If your point was that this electropneumatic marker is called an electronic marker, well, do you know about a little thing called marketing?


It's odd, three people are flaming me for posting "crap," and yet I have put up very well reasoned and well supported arguments, and all you guys are saying is I'm spamming and posting crap. Hmmm.... it's odd that all you haters don't post or know crap.

Trust me. Everyone here posts crap. Just look at this thread.

Oh, and dude from sal paulo brazil, why do I care what you think? You weren't in the country when the sport was invented. I don't care, and I'm not talking about, how things are in brazil. Now, go back and enjoy your rising country that will soon be the most influential country in south america.

Are you complimenting his preference of country to live in? Because you have a very PBNesque way of doing so.

The funniest thing is, this all started by me saying something in which I was patently wrong. Yet, not a single one of you insignificant haters out there corrected me. If ya'll were so smart, why didn't you know the answer that would completely shut me up? My friend told me what they did to cockers in 2k5:

They redesigned them from the ground up for electropneumatic operation! Internal cocking arm, no back block, basically every complaint I ever posted online about e-cockers when they first came out was fixed (which would mean I was right about those flaws to begin with). So it WAS designed solely for electropneumatic operation, which would make it an electro even by my very conservative and restrictive definition.

So you found out the truth about five minutes after you posted (note the Edit) in hopes of saving face and turning the argument atound to make someone else look bad.

Take a look at the Karni. Still has a back block. Came out in 05.

Jesus christ guys, the opportunity to show how I was wrong with my own logic was there the whole time, and all you guys could do is flame. You people are pathetic. I can see why no company ever consulted YOU guys about paintball equipment.

Can I see the list of any major corporation that required your consultation?

[SN toter]

hrmmm...

Well Halb I must disagree with your definitions, and your overall attitude here. I think you can find everything you ever wanted to know about paintball here. So you really don't even need Ao anymore. God knows I'd hate to waste your time with my ignorance. I am such the fool for considering an Emag an electro...

[halB]

Ok... So, let's just stop flaming each other and let me ask you something: what do you do for a living? I mean, how do you get the means to play paintball, go out with your friend or maybe (sorry, don't know your age), put some food on the table for your wife and kids?

Just for curiosity...

I want to say this. You just impressed me. I am 22, just graduated from college with a degree in history, and am currently unemployed (yes, I know a degree in history is worthless). I do have a job, I have been hired to build a device for a field, but I am waaaay too lazy and am convinced someone else will beat me to the punch. My money, what little there is, is coming from the graduation money my relatives gave me. Probably in the next week I'll get some two bit job at a restaurant. I only need 2000 dollars to get a patent, I already have about 20 patentable ideas, and of them, at least 5 are solid gold.

hrmmm...

Well Halb I must disagree with your definitions, and your overall attitude here. I think you can find everything you ever wanted to know about paintball here. So you really don't even need Ao anymore. God knows I'd hate to waste your time with my ignorance. I am such the fool for considering an Emag an electro...

Cheeky. Real cute. Too bad all you are doing is trolling. I thought AO didn't allow this sort of junk? Yes, you are a fool for considering the emag an electro. It is electronic, but it is not electropneumatic, which was and always has been the definition of an electro gun. Is a spyder VS1 electro? Is any spyder the same as an e-mag, or viking? Because if you say it is, then you MUST buy my spyder from me for 500 dollars. It's the same thing as an e-mag, right?

Can I see the list of any major corporation that required your consultation?

No, you can't. Even if I was able to tell you who consulted me, I wouldn't, because you don't impress me and you are insignificant to me. I have nothing to prove to you, and the best part is, I never will :)[/quote]


Hmmmm... So odd. I have posted a lot of things correcting your posts, and yet you guys seem to ignore where I showed you to be wrong. Very curious behavior indeed...

i must admit I was not impressed with my EMAG it was heavy... I switched to the ULT and Intelliframe with an adjustable regulator... It shoots just as fast without worrying about the battery and the extra weight.... The Intelligrip and ULT with the adjustable tank is amazing!!!!!

The e-mag would have been lighter if it would have been a fully electropneumatic gun. But, it is just a pancake sear tripper. Of course, I firmly believe that if Tom Kaye had wanted to make it electro, he would have. However, he seems to have favored reliability over weight. I just don't know if being able to shoot without batteries is really worth the extra pound or so.

[joelbird]

hahahaha thanks HAL. i feel so mucher better about my life after reading your post.

[mpsd]

I want to say this. You just impressed me. I am 22, just graduated from college with a degree in history, and am currently unemployed (yes, I know a degree in history is worthless). I do have a job, I have been hired to build a device for a field, but I am waaaay too lazy and am convinced someone else will beat me to the punch. My money, what little there is, is coming from the graduation money my relatives gave me. Probably in the next week I'll get some two bit job at a restaurant. I only need 2000 dollars to get a patent, I already have about 20 patentable ideas, and of them, at least 5 are solid gold.

OK. Thanks for clarifying. Wish you all the best. Trully.

Just wanted you to know that, at your age, even without a degree, I was a Senior Project Manager at the largest Microsoft consulting company in this country, leading projects in some banks, electric distribution companies and so on.

As for culture, I'm kinda stupid I think, since I only speak 3 languages (portuguese, english and spanish, in fluence order) and I also manage to read some hebrew too. I got a degree at 28 years old, in Business Administration and, of course, I have some 50 something oficial certifications from Microsoft, Symantec, ITIL and other software manufacturers.

My country may be a south american country but we don't live with monkeys. This small south american town here has over 15 million people and is considered to be better then most of the US cities in technology use and development.

But, as you have a degree in history, you should already know all of it, right?

Now, please, do a small favor to yourself: don't ever judge a person by the country he or she lives, the color of their skin, the religion or any other cultural/physical characteristic. At least in my country, if you do so, you will pay 2 years in jail for that. Here, in this 3rd world country that is far from being perfect, people learnt that hate and pre-concepts is a crime.

Again, I don't wish you anything but good luck.

I was wrong to post here in this thread for the first time and I won't do it again. If anyone, including you, want to talk to me, send me a PM, please.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings in any way.

[Sumthinwicked]

since im tired of definitions here is one off the INTERNET for you
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[edit] Prefix
electro-

Meaning electricity or electrical.

[edit] Translations
ur both wrong! LOL