I never knew that.....

[halB]

it means cockers are scum that were only put on this earth for mags to spit on.

jk. but in my opinion electrocockers take the fun out of cockers! I want a cocker some day, and it's going to be pre 98 FULLY MECHANICAL and a sliding single trigger. And stainless pneumatics. . . A man can dream!

True dat. What's the point of getting an e-cocker? Get a gun that's designed for electronics!

Man, doesn't anyone else remember that HUGE argument I had with a couple of fools just a month back - over this very same issue?

[Hilltop Customs]

True dat. What's the point of getting an e-cocker? Get a gun that's designed for electronics!

I guess then you wouldnt want an emag either then???

Man, doesn't anyone else remember that HUGE argument I had with a couple of fools just a month back - over this very same issue?

link??? I love me an internets e-battle

[halB]

I guess then you wouldnt want an emag either then???



link??? I love me an internets e-battle

Don't know the link. My life is full of these pointless battles. Le Sigh (ok, take le nap*) And I would looooooove an emag, because I'm a gun whore. I probably wouldn't shoot it. I'm VERY hesitant to get an RT valve for my mag because I already love the feel of the gun as it is. I was VERY hesitant to even consider changing the on/off pin. But I'll soon be doing that as I've been assured it doesn't change the feel. So, I wouldn't really WANT an e-mag, aside from it being a very sound investment.

//Nothing like the tactile feedback of that on/off
*can anyone tell me what this obscure reference is from?

[Army]

Elf tripper...

[SN toter]

Man, doesn't anyone else remember that HUGE argument I had with a couple of fools just a month back - over this very same issue?

Found it

Here we go again...

[cyrus-the-virus]

True dat. What's the point of getting an e-cocker? Get a gun that's designed for electronics!

Man, doesn't anyone else remember that HUGE argument I had with a couple of fools just a month back - over this very same issue?

Yeah, your still wrong, and it wasen't even a month ago.

[Hilltop Customs]

Found it

Here we go again...

Wow what a flame fest....I saw the start of that thread and decided not to post in it on account of the first post. Claiming that any marker "cant cut it" is just an opinion.....and arguing about opinions has no point.

halB, you need to stop going around bashing other people and calling them fools and descriminating because someone doesnt happen to live in the same country as you. Even if a couple users started the name calling in a previous thread it doesnt give you the right to act that way. And your going around basically bragging about it?

I had a huge reply typed out disputing every comment you made and showing how many times you contradicted yourself in that thread, but I think I'll just leave it alone. Seeing that you did not listen to a single reply you recieved previously, why would you start now?




As for the original topic, I'll stick by my original post in this thread.

[questionful]

Well, I would love to have a mechanical cocker cause they are cool machines, but you have to admit mech cockers are outdated. And while electro cockers still shoot paintballs, their mechanism is a polished turd. It's a complicated way to go around a problem. The whole "closed bolt" thing just makes it so you have to do more things with the mechanism, and all for what? Do we still believe closed bolt markers are more accurate? I'm not saying cockers suck, I'm just saying they don't make sense. They're still cool. And I still want a mech cocker. But you have to admit they don't make sense.

[Hilltop Customs]

Well, I would love to have a mechanical cocker cause they are cool machines, but you have to admit mech cockers are outdated. And while electro cockers still shoot paintballs, their mechanism is a polished turd. It's a complicated way to go around a problem. The whole "closed bolt" thing just makes it so you have to do more things with the mechanism, and all for what? Do we still believe closed bolt markers are more accurate? I'm not saying cockers suck, I'm just saying they don't make sense. They're still cool. And I still want a mech cocker. But you have to admit they don't make sense.

Cockers eveolved the way they did because they started from something extremely simple. Look at the sniper pump, the only thing pulling the trigger does is drop the sear and release the hammer, the act of pumping opens the chamber and closes the chamber while resetting the hammer to ready position held in place by the sear. The adaptation of the pump into the semi had the biproduct of having a closed bolt.....and just like anything else it became a means of creating hype.


Give me a concrete reason why the cocker is an outdated marker.....and dont say they are too complicated because that has no effect of their performance and is in no way a limitation(if it is, then it is only a user limitation). The truth is just about every marker out the is on the same performance plane because we are limited by the rules of the game. No marker can shoot farther than another because of the velocity limitation and no marker can shoot faster than another because of BPS limitations set in the rules of the game. I could build an electro stingray if I wanted to and it would be on the same performance level as a 1500ego.(ok maybe the stingray would get shootdown and inconsistant velocity at high bps....but you should get my point)


edit....before anyone brings up effiency, unless your playing a rouge game where the only source of compressed air is a scuba tank and the nearest place to get it filled is a 100miles away, your effiency claims mean just about squat.

[Empyreal Rogue]

i was just going to make this same topic a few months back when I first saw that video (PBR use to be my homepage), but never got around to it. Then I took PBR off as my homepage and completely forgot.

*shakes fist at Mark*