Perhaps I am looking at it the wrong way?

[punkncat]

I dunno. I saw this linked thread in a post here that got closed. Not concerned about the closure specifically but the linked thread did casue me some concern.

http://forum.specialopspaintball.com/index.php?showtopic=146882

Am I reading it wrong?

I will not reiterate what I posted there. Please feel free to look for yourself. Tell me, am I way off base? Perhaps I am reading between lines that do not exist? Read it, form your own opinion and let me know what you think.

[halB]

I think it's true. I myself had a turning point after which I DID start enjoying the game again. Instead of killing myself, trying to run every game I could, I just now relax, eat, drink, smoke, and be merry in between games, and if I only get to play 4 or even 3 games a day, well, I'm plum happy.

Although, I must suspect that the guy who wrote the article isn't a good ref. When I was reffing, there were people who wiped and those who didn't. If he thinks everyone's wiping, or not, merely because the accusations are put to both sides, then he's pulling a FDR, thinking that two clearly unequal sides are the same.* Some people really ARE wiping, and if he's not putting the screws to them, then he's making the game miserable for everyone. No wonder people are complaining to him!


*anyone wanna know what that means?

[maniacmechanic]

[chafnerjr]

What I've noticed of AO

Now I might be wrong because I've not played with anyone from AO specifically yet, but... 'Round here I've heard these sorts of stories before and almost everyone here seems to agree. Play to have fun, or don't play. Hell, that's why I have been hanging out here for the last few months. I'm an ol' woodsballer that's been playing fields for the past bit and there are just those people who are going to get pissed about all sorts of things... I just don't play with them. Thankfully the reffing core at OSG where I sometimes play does "remember the game" even when some of the players don't.

[punkncat]

Well apparently I stepped off into a very touchy situation. I have become less than popular for having a not so great first impression about that "open letter" and about the field from which that person comes from.

There is obviously much more to that story than I am privy to. Many people there know many others and apparently they are all buddies. Ah well, I guess I couldn't stay being a good boy for long.

[Elemental]

I wonder why Snake Eyes dragged Billy and LCP into that.

[punkncat]

I wonder why Snake Eyes dragged Billy and LCP into that.

I had wondered that as well. The feeling that I get is that he figured this since we are in the same state he guessed that we must have some relationship. What his thoughts were beyond that I can only speculate.

[Beemer]

Hey Punk I read that thread. You were fine. Looks like someone has a complex for some reason or nother.

[jenarelJAM]

I read the thread.

I have a great deal of respect for you for handling that situation the way you did. You didn't give in to their attack on you. You stayed calm (or so it sounded, regardless of how you felt at your computer seat ) and professional, and stood behind what you said.

After reading the thread, I feel like the original post had no less merit, but I feel like I understand the situation for what it was. Refs have a responsibility to control their field. I've been to several fields where the refs were there to stand around and get paid, not to prevent wiping or keep things safe or anything (they stood on the outside of the netted field...).

In general. You were not out of line in any way.

And I have no idea what snake_eyes was thinking. I think he came from pbn...

[Stingrayman42]

You did fine...

You kept your cool. Good job. It is always interesting when questions posed are responded to with personal attacks. Not that it matters, but Jamlink was incorrect when he stated no insured field has ever had someone lose an eye. I work at one, the person was being fired at, panicked, took off their mask, and that was all she wrote.

[Chris Nearchos]

[lather]

Sad that the OP didnt answer your question what actions he was taking to improve the situation he was just ponitficating about. Him and his cronies just circled the wagons and didnt even attempt to answer a legitimate question based on first hand observances.

Much easier to preach on the virtues of fair play and fun than to actually put words into actions I guess.

[athomas]

Hmm....All they had to do was mention that things had changed since then. There are fields around here that have fanboys all over the place. If you question anything about the field, it gets personal. Its too bad. Acceptance of criticism allows bad things to be corrected rather than defended.

[wimag]

Read it, form your own opinion and let me know what you think.

I think you should have kept your mouth shut. If you felt it as necessary at the time i really dont see the need for you to run back here for sympathy and acceptance.

[Beemer]

I think you should have kept your mouth shut. If you felt it as necessary at the time i really dont see the need for you to run back here for sympathy and acceptance.

Hmm, then what is the point of any forum? He came back here to see if maybe he did screw up and was wrong. If he was he knew we would tell him. He asked us to tell him what we thought just in case he was reading it wrong.

Anyway good job Punk a little class and style goes a long way.

Just went and saw the last posts over there. Oh ya nice job on the twinkie. Now just let it die.
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