Perhaps I am looking at it the wrong way?

[wimag]

Hmm, then what is the point of any forum? He came back here to see if maybe he did screw up and was wrong. If he was he knew we would tell him. He asked us to tell him what we thought just in case he was reading it wrong.

hmmm exactly. he asked for opinions i gave him mine. As you gave him yours, other people expressed their thoughts as well. Works pretty well. I thought he was wrong both in class and tact, but that is my opinion on the matter
Did i break some rule by not agreeing with your thoughts ?, sorry if i wasnt swinging off his nuts like you are but he asked, he got.

[punkncat]

hmmm exactly. he asked for opinions i gave him mine. As you gave him yours, other people expressed their thoughts as well. Works pretty well. I thought he was wrong both in class and tact, but that is my opinion on the matter
Did i break some rule by not agreeing with your thoughts ?, sorry if i wasnt swinging off his nuts like you are but he asked, he got.

Dang bro...no need to be harsh. I can handle it. I value your input just as much whether I agree or not.

I am just a little bit curious as to why you choose to be so well not sure the word I am looking for...so upfront, blatent (?) in the way you offered your opinion.
Did what I have to say about it offend you as well?

I am not looking to argue with you about it, just satifying my curiousity.



Oh and thanks Beemer.

[wimag]

Dang bro...no need to be harsh. I can handle it. I value your input just as much whether I agree or not.

I am just a little bit curious as to why you choose to be so well not sure the word I am looking for...so upfront, blatent (?) in the way you offered your opinion.
Did what I have to say about it offend you as well?

I am not looking to argue with you about it, just satifying my curiousity.



Oh and thanks Beemer.

you do not want my reasoning on why i came acorss so blatant. It would take to long to write, lead to a ban for me..... but if you are really that intersted ask Beemer to ask me at Paintball Sams in a couple weeks and he can take notes on it and relay the info back to you.

[Beemer]

hmmm exactly. he asked for opinions i gave him mine. As you gave him yours, other people expressed their thoughts as well. Works pretty well. I thought he was wrong both in class and tact, but that is my opinion on the matter
Did i break some rule by not agreeing with your thoughts ?, sorry if i wasnt swinging off his nuts like you are but he asked, he got.

Hmmmmm, I see what you did there. You are right, works pretty well. I think you are wrong both in class and tact in the last part of your post. Unless I read that wrong, I would say you just dissed me. Are you trolling? Rule number one as a Mod is to not engage. Sometimes that is a very hard rule to follow as we are a part of the community also. Now if you wish to engage you can take it to PMs but I doubt that will go well and I really dont think you will anyway.

And just for the record, I swing off NO ONEs nuts but my own. Go post in that other forum, you will do well there.

Punk might be a putz, but he IS a respected contributing member of this FORUM. Who are you again?

[punkncat]

Punk might be a putz,

Hey that just.....it is.....you.......are right.

[Beemer]

you do not want my reasoning on why i came acorss so blatant. It would take to long to write, lead to a ban for me..... but if you are really that intersted ask Beemer to ask me at Paintball Sams in a couple weeks and he can take notes on it and relay the info back to you.

What you cant post with pride, honor and respect with out worrying about a Ban? Whats that about. Nobody has to ask me to ask anybody. See My last post I dont swing. Take notes and relay. You must be kidding me. Post it up here.

I will be at Sams on Saturday.[Big game] If you have an issue you can find me since I dont know who you are and EVERYBODY knows who I am there. I take responsibility for all my actions, good, bad, right or wrong.

[ThePixelGuru]

I... I think I agree with Beemer. Oh god I need help!
kidding...

Concerning the thread at SpecOps and wimag's posts here, it's a shame some people can't figure out how to express their opinions civilly. Tact is the art of saying what people don't want to hear without pissing them off; looks like it's becoming a lost art. I've held some fairly unpopular and heated opinions here, and I've managed to express all of them without getting banned. It's really not that hard.

[Chris Nearchos]

wow

Mr. "ThePixelGuru", I commend you for your well placed thought on that thread. It just goes to show how one sided people are (them of their "field").

I still stand by the fact that they are the ones that opend the field up to the discussion with bringing their feild into the picture. So no matter what they believe should/shouldnt be said, Punk has every right to talk about that field from when he was there. and I will go on thinking that if they (the field and its runners) want to complain about the sport or its players, they first must judge themselves first. Once they are perfect (or even close to perfect), THEN they can judge others.

but i guess thats just my two cents....wether anyone wants to hear it or not.

Punkncat--> keep standing by your statement and experience. Maybe you will actually have them questioning themselves for once. If nothing else, you are unfolding their true colors of their attitude and ways on that thread. Good warning for anyone who even thinking about trying that field.

-Chris

[SR_matt]

PC, i skimmed through and tried to read your posts, you didnt seem off base at all. when i was reffing for 50 bucks of store credit for 8 hours (6.25/hour for those to lazy to do the math) we were expected to do that, we slacked off after a while but we still keep things safe and did pretty decent.

if i was getting paid 13 bucks an hour i would be sliding into bunkers, taking bonus balls for players, and bending over backwards. i was making 8 bucks an hour as a lifeguard last summer (just graduated highschool and was entering college) and that was the 2nd year i worked for them with great reviews and i think the lady thought i was on my 3rd year. and if i slacked off people could have literally died. i can see a 30 year old with a degree or that has been in their trade/field for a long time not wanting to work for 13 an hour but a teen ager/ college student making 13 is great pay.

if they are paying 10 refs which at that many people is putting it at 25:1, which is insane still, they are spending half of the income from field fees.

if people are jumping on you that bad they have issues. if a field is that good or has improved that much, people would not jump on your posts, they would have responded with "ya we used to have issues but now we fixed it this way and that way yada yada yada"

i think you were fine, the others were the ones that freaked out and frankly acted like children... not to mention the whole pulling the PBN "you joined this year your stupid" bs

-matt

[Enemy]

"you sir have know honor!" .... would have had more meaning if he knew how to spell no!

punkncat... and one person on here its spelled experienced

other than that you were fine and i totally agree with what you said. I used to volunteer at a field i know what its like to deal with complaints and i always addressed them sternly.

now as a player at certain fields if the cheating is out of hand i simply sit out one game and ref. when i ref its right on top of the 3 closest players and i dont miss much.. and that seems to work.

Now i see his side and see what he means but ive also seen how his shortcomings could be the root cause of the complaints he hates so much.

edited cause i get off on tangents

[Beemer]

I... I think I agree with Beemer. Oh god I need help!
kidding...

Concerning the thread at SpecOps and wimag's posts here, it's a shame some people can't figure out how to express their opinions civilly. Tact is the art of saying what people don't want to hear without pissing them off; looks like it's becoming a lost art. I've held some fairly unpopular and heated opinions here, and I've managed to express all of them without getting banned. It's really not that hard.

Cry yi you do need help. It is a lost ART. What, I didnt ban you?

Ah so grasshopper, your teacher has taught you well but can you teach others is your test.

[ThePixelGuru]

Cry yi you do need help. It is a lost ART. What, I didnt ban you?

Nah, you got me once, but not for that. I'm over it.

Ah so grasshopper, your teacher has taught you well but can you teach others is your test.

Heh. Are you gonna start posting "wax off" when you hit people with the ban stick?

[punkncat]

I am going to be in Tampa this week. I may try to drop in "incognito" this weekend to see if anything has actually changed at this place. I am not going to be able to play as I have no gear or the cash to actually play, but think I may wander out there on Saturday to just watch a little bit.
I really would like to give the place another chance to make a better impression on me than my first. We will see.

[wimag]

What you cant post with pride, honor and respect with out worrying about a Ban? Whats that about. Nobody has to ask me to ask anybody. See My last post I dont swing. Take notes and relay. You must be kidding me. Post it up here.

I will be at Sams on Saturday.[Big game] If you have an issue you can find me since I dont know who you are and EVERYBODY knows who I am there. I take responsibility for all my actions, good, bad, right or wrong.

I will be there Saturday as well. I may have seen you around before but i will try to make some time in the staging area so we can have a proper introduction.

[nmib]

i stopped half way threw the first post. totally lame, just like alot of threads on there. he is complaining about complainers? whatever. pansy.