Tom should get a kick out of this one -

[cyrus-the-virus]

I just so happen to have an old shoebox, I like it already so I'd love to see if there is actually a diffrence(looking at the bolt I'm going to gues not)

[JRingold]

Did someone cue the circus music again?

http://pages.prodigy.net/area512/circus1.mid

[mtaylor]

I don't know why these guys post, they get run into the ground just about every time.

Did someone cue the circus music again?

http://pages.prodigy.net/area512/circus1.mid

listening to that while reading made my day.

[snoopay700]

I just so happen to have an old shoebox, I like it already so I'd love to see if there is actually a diffrence(looking at the bolt I'm going to gues not)

Please tell me you aren't at all serious.

[grEnAlEins]

http://pages.prodigy.net/area512/circus1.mid

WHAT'S SO FUNNY 'BOUT A BIG BANANA?!
WHAT'S SO FUNNY 'BOUT A BIG BANANA?!

I just so happen to have an old shoebox, I like it already so I'd love to see if there is actually a diffrence(looking at the bolt I'm going to gues not)

It is virtually impossible that there is a difference if there is no spin or crazy environmental factor. A mass moving at a velocity will fly identically to any other identical mass at the said velocity provided an identical environment. I would imagine that wind speed would have a negligible effect, as would barometric pressure fluctuation at a similar altitude... so it is very unlikely that a 4x4 is gonna shoot nicer than anything else.

[ThePixelGuru]

(emphasis mine)

Wow, that bolded bit is funny, especially since I had a debate with him a while ago where I asked if he thought it was a bad thing that SP made false claims about their products (specifically things like having greater range) and he told me SP never said that.

I'm not even bothering with this one. Though in other news, it looks like he's getting suspiciously close to the "it shoots farther because the ball is still accelerating after it leaves the barrel" argument.

[Hilltop Customs]

is it really that hard to understand that a marker cant do anything to the ball after it leaves the barrel? If 2 paintballs are shot at the same speed, with the same angle......WTF will make one go farther than another? some super vortex created by the low pressure must get in front of the ball and make it so that air resistance and gravity have no effect



one person did bring up a vaild point that I havent heard be4....different masses of paintballs. IDK if its true, never weighed a paintball. But if somehow one paintball is more dense and has the same shape/air resistance....then it will have a higher velocity down range than a lighter ball. They would both hit the ground at the same time, because gravity doesnt care about anything.....but the heavier ball would be farther down range, because its avg velocity over the whole arc will be higher than a lighter ball(even if the initial velocity is the same).

[gunangel]

I am in no way going up to bat for sp or anything but he could have had something on the top of the barrel. I played with my pump last weekend and I realized I was shooting really far and the ball had a funny path. I took off the barrel and found some water along the top (it was raining and the porting happened to line up with the top) and it was creating friction causing the ball to lift after about 10-15 feet out of the barrel.

other than that sp must have sued physics into submission or what not

on a side note, Mr Kaye if you see this I would like to invite you to play a game with the UW huskies when your in the neighborhood (at burke etc)

[Hilltop Customs]

I am in no way going up to bat for sp or anything but he could have had something on the top of the barrel. I played with my pump last weekend and I realized I was shooting really far and the ball had a funny path. I took off the barrel and found some water along the top (it was raining and the porting happened to line up with the top) and it was creating friction causing the ball to lift after about 10-15 feet out of the barrel.

other than that sp must have sued physics into submission or what not

on a side note, Mr Kaye if you see this I would like to invite you to play a game with the UW huskies when your in the neighborhood (at burke etc)

that could be true, but he is claiming that "Only a few guns I have seen have been able to shoot futher then other guns at the same velocity. The old Shocker, the DM4, and the original Matrix." So its not some uncontrolled incident....hes making a claim that those markers shoot farther.

For me, the luxe seemed flatter on the trajectory. I have to play with it more before I can say anything like I did in my first post. I have seen the 4X4 shoot further than my cocker chrono'd 35 fps than mine. You have a 4x4 don't you? Or have access to one? I really would like to see a test on that.

Maybe its just me but isnt the only way to flatten a trajectory is to either increase velocity or decrease gravity?(other than putting backspin on the ball, which the luxe doesnt have a mechanism to do this) must be the magic pixi dust....either that or hes on the magic pixi dust

[Whee McGee]

Did someone cue the circus music again?

http://pages.prodigy.net/area512/circus1.mid

I am keeping this on my play list permanently

[paint magnet]

Maybe it shoots further because it uses 3x the air?

Or maybe the reg on the shocker wasn't lubed properly and it spiked 50 fps after it was chrono'd.

[KC]

Is a velocity measurment at the tip of a barrel accurate? Im asking this question seriously. Couldnt a ball still be accelerating to a climax before slowing down?

[Boy_Wonder]

HAHAHA, when I read 'Must have been a gust in gravity' I nearly lost it...

Thanks cockerpunk!

One other thing, I've seen that Sean guy make so many ridiculous posts on PBN. If I were Smart Parts, this guy would seem like a liability. Of course, they probably don't care what kind of attention they get as long as they get attention...good or bad.

BTW, here is the original thread in which he hijacked. His posts start on page 2. Really good read if you want a good laugh.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2669804

[AGD]

I was there for the tippman barrel challenge and I can tell you, if a Shocker had out ranged the Flatline we would have heard ALL ABOUT IT in the magazines at that time, not 10 years later.

Denny sold so many of those barrels, that he took the whole company to Disney World as a bonus. SP would have been all over that with their marketing hype if they could have taken a piece of him.

SP continues to be one of the most successful companies in paintball because telling people what they want to hear sells stuff.

AGD

[Phaelynar]

I think Sean from SP and Jack Rice from Alien should duke it out in a cage fight in an epic battle of bullcrap trajectory hype.