Is DLX Technology Group really just Smart Parts?

**insixdays777** · 07-17-2008, 03:44 PM

AWESOME!

Lets pull all the forum post from the net...where they say they are not the same company! Sorry I would but I am still at work!

this rules! THANKS!!!!!

**pmstc** · 07-17-2008, 03:46 PM

I thought that it was common knowledge that they were? Are they denying it?

**questionful** · 07-17-2008, 03:50 PM

How did it first come up that SP was associated with DLX? And what's the difference between Luxe and DLX? Is luxe JUST the name of the gun, because the website is "luxe paintball", typical of a brand.

**insixdays777** · 07-17-2008, 03:52 PM

Yeah they are denying it...I am looking for post right now...but easy point to make.

PBN has a seperate DLX forum thread - NOT a subforum like all the other companies. I.E.

The Dye Thread is also the Proto forum with a subforum clearly notes PROTO..because they are the same company.

Why the speical treatment for Smartparts? Looks like the exact same situation as Dye and Proto?

And this is the point...just more dishonesty...they are trying to make the consumers belive SmartParts and DLX are two seperate companies....

**Ruler_Mark** · 07-17-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by insixdays777

Yeah they are denying it...I am looking for post right now...but easy point to make.

PBN has a seperate DLX forum thread - NOT a subforum like all the other companies. I.E.

The Dye Thread is also the Proto forum with a subforum clearly notes PROTO..because they are the same company.

Why the speical treatment for Smartparts? Looks like the exact same situation as Dye and Proto?

And this is the point...just more dishonesty...they are trying to make the consumers belive SmartParts and DLX are two seperate companies....

sp cuts checks.

**Hexis** · 07-17-2008, 03:55 PM

From what I'm reading they are trying to claim a separation. DLX Technology Group is supposed to be a completely new company, that created, manufacture and support the LUXE gun model.

On the surface similar to the DYE Proto setup, except Proto has never claimed to not be a part of DYE.

I just see it as more "we can do whatever we want" attitude from Smart Parts.

**robnix** · 07-17-2008, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by insixdays777

Yeah they are denying it...I am looking for post right now...but easy point to make.

PBN has a seperate DLX forum thread - NOT a subforum like all the other companies. I.E.

The Dye Thread is also the Proto forum with a subforum clearly notes PROTO..because they are the same company.

Why the speical treatment for Smartparts? Looks like the exact same situation as Dye and Proto?

And this is the point...just more dishonesty...they are trying to make the consumers belive SmartParts and DLX are two seperate companies....

It's in the DLX Sticky:

Q: Is this a Smart Parts marker?
Q: Did DLX buy this gun from SP?
Q: What's the connection between DLX and SP?
A: Luxes were designed and are manufactured by the expert manufacturing facilities at Smart Parts, but the marker is assembled, supported, and sold by the separate company called DLX Technologies. DLX Technologies is NOT a subsidiary of Smart Parts - it's a completely separate company.

**insixdays777** · 07-17-2008, 03:59 PM

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/d...pyright-3.html

Seans MCB post:

"I do not even know why I am backing DLX.. screw them. I am done posting on forums. You all have a good life.
__________________
-------------------------
Sean Scott
Smart Parts, INC
Sales Representative
Scenario Coordinator
[email protected] "

Ummm.....forceful words about "another company"....spend 2 days doing coverup and PR damage control for ANOTHER? Company and then..."screw them" HAHAHA....

I would get fired from my job if I spent 2 days working for another company.....

**DevilMan** · 07-17-2008, 04:03 PM

I see it more as a way to shift the bad taste that alot of folks have for SP by starting a new company. Kind of like SP filing bankruptcy... then seeing the company DLX pop up on the radar with the same gear. Thing is, SP has tooooo much stuff out there to simply do that.

Sooooo if they maintain their stores and parts but start phasing out the markers and basically this year SP has 10 markers, DLX has 3... Next year SP has 7 models and DLX has 6, then SP has 3 and DLX has 10.... they can slowly push the stigma over out off of SP products and everyone will LOVE DLX stuff and SP will still rake in the $$$$.

Plus it's a pretty well known fact that any company starting out LOSES money for at least 1 year. Some more. If done right SP can write the loss from their DLX line off as a loss of funds so that come tax season they keep more in pocket....

I'm sure there are multiple other reasons.... but hey...

What do I know???

DM

**temps** · 07-17-2008, 04:09 PM

DLX is to Smartparts is like Invert is to Kee.. same thing.. whats the big story here??

**lather** · 07-17-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by insixdays777

Seans MCB post:

"I do not even know why I am backing DLX.. screw them. I am done posting on forums. You all have a good life.
__________________
-------------------------
Sean Scott
Smart Parts, INC
Sales Representative
Scenario Coordinator
[email protected] "

Ummm.....forceful words about "another company"....spend 2 days doing coverup and PR damage control for ANOTHER? Company and then..."screw them" HAHAHA....

I would get fired from my job if I spent 2 days working for another company.....

Good point--why did Sean so vehemently defend a supposedly seperate company?

**Hexis** · 07-17-2008, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by temps

DLX is to Smartparts is like Invert is to Kee.. same thing.. whats the big story here??

Why do the claim otherwise?

**robnix** · 07-17-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Hexis

Some evidence:

Search our trademark database

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=cv940t.6.17

A search you complete before applying for a trademark registration to make sure your trademark is available to register for your particular goods or services, and to make sure that no other trademark conflicts with it.

The Trademark for "LUXE" is registered to:
(APPLICANT) Smart Parts, Inc. CORPORATION PENNSYLVANIA 100 Station Street Latrobe PENNSYLVANIA 15661

Domain contact info:

Domain Name: LUXEPAINTBALL.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Trent, Darryl [email protected]
Luxe Paintball
DLX Technology Group
100 Station Street
Loyalhanna, PA 15661
US
7245324311

Domain Name: SMARTPARTS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Mowry, Valetta [email protected]
Smart Parts Inc
PO Box 3200
Latrobe, PA 15650
US
724-539-2660 fax: 724-539-5555

Technical Contact:
Buyan, Steve [email protected]
Smart Parts
100 Station Street
Loyalhanna, PA 15661
US
724-532-4649

Domain Name: DLXTECHNOLOGYGROUP.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Trent, Darryl [email protected]
Luxe Paintball
DLX Technology Group
100 Station Street
Loyalhanna, PA 15661
US
7245324311

All of the real addresses are the same. The listed address in the Smart Parts corporate listing with the state of PA:
1203 SPRING STREET
LATROBE PA 15650-919

http://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?828737

There is no DLX Technology listed in the PA corporation system:

http://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/csearch.asp

It's possible DLX is setup as a partnership or some non corporate format.

There is
DLX ELECTRONICS, INC. (1st filing is in 1977)

http://www.corporations.state.pa.us/corp/soskb/Filings.asp?429484

DLX ENTERPRISES, INC. (1st filing is in 1995)
http://www.corporations.state.pa.us/...gs.asp?1576088

And they're on the same server:

Name: smartparts.com
Address: 38.100.175.220
wsnew.sp.cm3consulting.com
Name: LUXEPAINTBALL.COM
Address: 38.100.175.223

https://www.cm3consulting.com

**temps** · 07-17-2008, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Hexis

Why do the claim otherwise?

They claim they are separate companies.. Which they probably are legally speaking.

Is DLX Technology Group really just Smart Parts?

Is DLX Technology Group really just Smart Parts?

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