Is DLX Technology Group really just Smart Parts?

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  • teufelhunden
    Registered Bamf
    • Jul 2003
    • 2691

    #46
    Originally posted by robnix
    A company that I used to work for did real estate development, different projects were setup as their own LLC. Everything involved with each LLC was registered in the name of that LLC including domain names, trademarks, etc... specifically so any possible lawsuits didn't have an effect on other projects. We did run everything out of the same office though.

    Now, IANAL, and I may have no clue what I'm talking about, but those were there the reasons I was given by ownership.

    This doesn't seem to be the case with DLX, there's no DBA in the State of PA for them, and all the IP that I've seen like trademarks, domain names, even the webhosting etc... is owned and paid for by SP with their name on it. With no DBA in PA, they're not allowed to enter into any contracts using that name either.
    We'll have to see what happens. The DLX site doesn't have any of the usual footers, things like Copyright Smart Parts Inc. or Copyright DLX Technologies, LLC... whatever it would be, so we can't get any insight there. Then again, all we could do is speculate anyway, because SP wouldn't (and is not obligated to) answer any questions of this nature. I would presume that the Gardners have at least some level of understanding of what they need to do to start a new venture given that they are both attorneys by trade.


    Originally posted by insixdays777
    What is the meaning of "is" is the question?....

    semantics...NO excuse. SP comminicutates in a non-business law relm of paintball players. lay-man terms, normal adverage joe terms.

    When you say:

    "DLX Technologies is NOT a subsidiary of Smart Parts - it's a completely separate company."

    That is what you mean.
    Uh, DLX may very well not be a sub of SP. It could be a "completely separate company" and have common ownership. A subsidiary is when Company A owns a majority interest in Company B; then Company A is the parent and company B is the sub.

    It's not really a b-law issue, and it's not SP's problem if you do or do not understand what may be going on or have the education to know what it means. They are using normal, adverage [sic] joe terms-- but the same way "fair" is up for debate and interpretation, so may be "separate" -- or a slew of other words that you likely use on a daily basis.



    Edit: I just looked at your profile, you work in insurance? Unless you're cleaning the floors or in your first week you are extremely well versed in double-speak and the like. How is this new to you?
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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #47
      I receive one paycheck and do work for three legally seperate corporations. Its not uncommon for me to act as a rep for a fourth international corporation during that time.
      Last edited by Lohman446; 07-18-2008, 12:40 PM.
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      • robnix
        email robnix@gmail
        • Jan 2006
        • 2094

        #48
        Originally posted by teufelhunden
        I would presume that the Gardners have at least some level of understanding of what they need to do to start a new venture given that they are both attorneys by trade.
        Considering they were involved in a patent fraud lawsuit, even if they know the law I doubt they have any regard for it when it doesn't suit their purposes.

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        • insixdays777
          Long Live AGD
          • Mar 2004
          • 857

          #49
          Edit: I just looked at your profile, you work in insurance? Unless you're cleaning the floors or in your first week you are extremely well versed in double-speak and the like. How is this new to you?[/QUOTE]

          Its not new to me at all...again you are missing my point. I understand exactly what you are saying on the technical side of this issue. But see my last post please read it again, you missed the entire point.

          Again SP audiance is Paintball players not business students.

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          • teufelhunden
            Registered Bamf
            • Jul 2003
            • 2691

            #50
            Originally posted by insixdays777
            Its not new to me at all...again you are missing my point. I understand exactly what you are saying on the technical side of this issue. But see my last post please read it again, you missed the entire point.

            Again SP audiance is Paintball players not business students.

            I understand that. However, not everything can be put to the lowest common denominator especially when talking about something that can have so many layers of complexity. Saying "it's not a sub it's a separate firm" may very well be as low as they can take it for people without getting into details.

            That said, it's pretty well understood in life that there will be things in life that plenty of people can't handle on their own. That's why professionals exist -- when you're sued/accused of a crime, you get a lawyer to represent yourself... except for the lowest level, like small claims (when, of course, you may choose to get a lawyer). You get an accountant for your taxes... except for the most basic returns, when you may still choose to hire an accountant. You get a doctor for your health... except when you skin your knee, but you may still choose to see a doctor. Same thing here.

            When discussing a matter that is within a field that professionals exist in, it is expected that there may be topics that are beyond the grasp of many/most. Obviously, this applies to business ownership.
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            • Ninjeff
              it only takes one.
              • Jan 2007
              • 1205

              #51
              i actually feel bad for rebecca. Chances are good that she didnt REALLY know what she was getting into. By that i mean, to the un experienced i doubt she could have known she was in for such a........beating.

              It looks to me like her "boss" came up with the idea of creating a seperate "personality" that could be identified with the DLX brand, sort of a "james bond" cool deal. Whith the british accent, talk about tech, and looks and what-not. She was told to run with it, and did. Regardless, she did appologize, and has been taking through fire and brimstone because of it. Regarless of anything else, i really do think SHE meant it as a harmless thing. Now, whetehr her bosses thought the same.....well.....

              Still, i cant imagine how angry the photographer was when he found out. Apparently the pic was of his WIFE. Jeez, id be right wizzed off. Imagine if some pbn fan boy recognized her outside in the "real world"! That lady would be in for quit the suprise.

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              • Hexis
                Green Mag Freak
                • Sep 2001
                • 2427

                #52
                Before her explanation I was kind of figuring it was the way it appears: a CSR doing something foolish. It's the dishonesty of the whole deal that irks me. All of these half true (if at all) statements. I just don't get why Smartparts finds it so hard to be straight with their intended audience.

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