G-Force frame, not vaporware!

[Hilltop Customs]

sorry for sounding a little PO'd, someone just cut me off on my bicycle and i'm missing a chunk out of my leg and the tip of my right ring finger it hurts more typing now than it did going down in the first place.

Basically you said the same thing as me, just your saying it specifically for mags while I was just saying all electronic guns are susceptible to water damage. emags and e-converson mags would be included in the electronic gun catagorey so they would also be capable of being damaged by water.

I'm just having a bad weekend at this point, and now my keyboard is bloody.

[warbeak2099]

sorry for sounding a little PO'd, someone just cut me off on my bicycle and i'm missing a chunk out of my leg and the tip of my right ring finger it hurts more typing now than it did going down in the first place.

Basically you said the same thing as me, just your saying it specifically for mags while I was just saying all electronic guns are susceptible to water damage. emags and e-converson mags would be included in the electronic gun catagorey so they would also be capable of being damaged by water.

I'm just having a bad weekend at this point, and now my keyboard is bloody.

Holy crap are you going to a doctor or something?

[Hilltop Customs]

nah, I had far worse when I wrecked a real motorcycle.....it just sucks that right where my ring finger hits the keyboard the skin is gone....it feels so weird typing with a pinky instead of ring finger i just cant do it.

Its funny my leg got cut up yesterday baseball sliding over a rock while playing paintball, and now the same spot is all cut up again today.

all doctors do is give you some numbing agent and then scrub the grime out with something that feels like a brillo pad anyway. the numbing crap hurts more than the scrubbing, feels like the wound is ice cold then on FIRE. Just need to hop in the shower and wash it out good.

[Siress]

Siress, does it matter if boards are coated if the coils on solenoids are not water tight? what about water in the 9 volt?

if you believe that water cant hurt an electronic marker you should have no hesitation with dunking your own gun into water, not telling someone else to do so.

with a mag you dont have to care about water period....hell I was once involved in a "pool game" with classic mags and a few reballs.

Ah, but I have. I do so regularly to check for micro-leaks. I'm glad you have some sense about you. However, it will not damage the coils of the solenoid. Water is a very poor conductor and coils have a coating around them as well to keep from bridging the circuit across them. The only time it ever becomes a problem is if there are bare contacts exposed that are close enough for water to create enough of a short to mess up the amount of resistance allowed for the chips. The contacts on a 9volt are plenty far apart to prevent that in most applications.

I suggest against using white lithium grease due to it's inconsistency. Try a thinner, more consistent grease like MUGG...which, IIRC, is just a mostly synthetic grease with a small amount of petroleum compound to keep it consistent. It's the same stuff as the grease used for dirt bike forks.

I also suggest an ultra-light Judge from Taurus to um...'get the attention' of those idiotic drivers. Shoot first and I bet you could claim self defense. I don't even trust drivers enough to chance riding near the streets any more. It's just too risky where I live. Besides that, I enjoy nature more. If you're riding for practicality, though, I understand. Godspeed.

[Hilltop Customs]

Siress when I referred to the coil in the noid I was thinking about corrosion in the future, not an instant short. hmmmm I have an extra stock ion board, i might just dunk it and see if it works.

thats it, no more typing for today

oh ps, I have a para ordinance 40cal, but I dont think I could conceal it well on a bicycle with a pair of shorts and a t-shirt on

[Siress]

Who said to conceal it?

A 40cal is a lot different from the .410 I was suggesting... I'm talking about severely messing up their vehicle. You're talking about severely messing up their plans for the future.

[Hilltop Customs]

ride around on a bicycle with an unconcealed weapon? I can just imagine trying to explain that one to a cop

oh and i'm riding to save gas....and I totally agree its dangerous, I got hit by a car while I was walking about 3 weeks ago.(car completely stopped at a red light, I cross in front, he hits the gas and hits me)

damnit now i'm really done typing

[jade_monkey07]

Andrew it seemed to be double shooting occationally does it happen easily or often?

RT....talking to garf he said not to use the ULT...since we already have efficiency issues also...but the way mine came from the factory i actually had to do some tuning to get it running...the trigger was moving enough on mine to actuate the piston to move the sear... half turn here a half turn there and i got it all sorted out and dialed back in for a minimal trigger pull....but "GOSH DARN" is this gun a dream come true...its easier for me to shoot fast on than the ion...is just about as light...and a piece of paint ball history...not to mention i built it from the ground up...choose every part...so its just that more satisfying : )

[Andrew Cunje]

shocker grease works great...

Ah, but I have. I do so regularly to check for micro-leaks. I'm glad you have some sense about you. However, it will not damage the coils of the solenoid. Water is a very poor conductor and coils have a coating around them as well to keep from bridging the circuit across them. The only time it ever becomes a problem is if there are bare contacts exposed that are close enough for water to create enough of a short to mess up the amount of resistance allowed for the chips. The contacts on a 9volt are plenty far apart to prevent that in most applications.

I suggest against using white lithium grease due to it's inconsistency. Try a thinner, more consistent grease like MUGG...which, IIRC, is just a mostly synthetic grease with a small amount of petroleum compound to keep it consistent. It's the same stuff as the grease used for dirt bike forks.

I also suggest an ultra-light Judge from Taurus to um...'get the attention' of those idiotic drivers. Shoot first and I bet you could claim self defense. I don't even trust drivers enough to chance riding near the streets any more. It's just too risky where I live. Besides that, I enjoy nature more. If you're riding for practicality, though, I understand. Godspeed.

[Andrew Cunje]

nice im slingin a smith and wesson sw9ve 9mm...with conceal carry...but thats just a CYA thing...i never take it anywhere except the range with my buddies...

Siress when I referred to the coil in the noid I was thinking about corrosion in the future, not an instant short. hmmmm I have an extra stock ion board, i might just dunk it and see if it works.

thats it, no more typing for today

oh ps, I have a para ordinance 40cal, but I dont think I could conceal it well on a bicycle with a pair of shorts and a t-shirt on

[Andrew Cunje]

i tuned that out today...like i said we had to mess with the trigger to make it work on my gun since its the mag from hell...part of the reason my gun is very prone to it is my input pressure from my tank is set to 950... : ) was set like that for super high rebound : P

Andrew it seemed to be double shooting occationally does it happen easily or often?

[Hilltop Customs]

anyone ever report on using the frame with a classic valve? anyone want to try it, only take a few seconds.....

[Andrew Cunje]

the video of warbreak dry firing is a classic valve i beleive...

[jade_monkey07]

i will be trying it when i get my frames. ill have one on a classic and one on an xvalve

anyone ever report on using the frame with a classic valve? anyone want to try it, only take a few seconds.....

[warbeak2099]

the video of warbreak dry firing is a classic valve i beleive...

No, my Classic doesn't have a macro fitting on it. I need to order one. That was my blue X-valve. I don't foresee any problems with the Classic though. I've got an RTP on/off in it right now. It should work fine. I can't pull faster than 16 or 17bps anyways. Hell, it's tough to even do 13 consistently.

Although I must say, I feel like I can shoot a lot faster with this frame than I've ever been able to before. We'll see if my vision of a Classic sleeper will be able to handle the speed of the G-Frame.