Mini Mag

[Sundown]

Here is a super newbie question

I have read about a Mini Mag.. is that just like a smaller mag?
Is it pretty much the same marker but a bit smaller?
Is it as reliable as a ''normal'' mag?

I mean, I have a Tac-One and I find it kinda small which is perfect

And also, do they make anymore Mini Mags? or must it be a special order or so?

thanks a bunch guys and possibly girls also

[FiXeL]

Basicly its a classic with minimag body.

[Hook]

A minimag's valve is the same size as any other mag. In other words, you could get a minimag body and put in your Tac-One's Xvalve in it. The body (and perhahps the rail) are smaller.

[Spider-TW]

The minimag is actually bigger than the automag.

It is the same marker with an extended body front, and they came stock with the vertical ASA. The "mini" part was that you could put a 3.5 oz bottle on the vert adapter and have a nice tight package to move with. The valve engraving was different, but it is the same valve as the automag.

The "Classic" automag disappeared from the AGD web site not long ago (last month iirc) without any particular announcement. I don't know if any other info ever developed.

The Minimag HL bead blasted body is still an option on the RT ULE mag. I would look around for a used one. They come out of the closets at times. If you find a painted one, just pull the body off and soak it in paint thinner. If you find one that is 'sort of' polished, Luke at www.lukescustoms.com can bead blast it back to normal. It's hard to find one that you can't get going again.

[ThePixelGuru]

Three key differences between the Minimag and the Automag 68.

The Minimag comes stock with a shorter barrel than the Automag 68.
The Minimag's body has a shroud while the Automag 68 doesn't.
The Minimag doesn't come with a bottomline - in the stock configuration, the tank goes where the foregrip would be on a Automag 68, and there's nothing on the back where the Automag 68 would have a tank.

Not too different, really, just a slightly different stock configuration. And no, I don't believe AGD is making anymore Automag 68s or Minimags, just RTs.

[ThePixelGuru]

The minimag is actually bigger than the automag.

O rly?



Sorry, but in my book the "Minimag is bigger" statements rank right up there with "Shockers shoot farther." Well, except for the fact that I don't even have to get out of my chair to prove this one wrong...

[Raven001]

O rly?



Sorry, but in my book the "Minimag is bigger" statements rank right up there with "Shockers shoot farther." Well, except for the fact that I don't even have to get out of my chair to prove this one wrong...

I'm sure spyder was refering to the extended shroud part of the main body.

[Spider-TW]

I'm sure spyder was refering to the extended shroud part of the main body.

That and the stock automag 68's didn't come with a vert adapter or 'bicycle' grip. At the time the Minimag got its name, the 68 came with the rail mounted ASA, a little U of braided line and a crown point barrel. If you held them up to each other, the vert adapter and extended stainless body more than made up for the missing end of the crown point (weight and bulk). It wasn't until you saw one with a 3.5 oz bottle that the "mini" made any sense.

With the same barrel, I would bet money the Minimag is heavier than a stock 68 with or without the vert adapter, since the only difference is the extra stainless body on the Minimag.

[ThePixelGuru]

I'm sure spyder was refering to the extended shroud part of the main body.

Yeah, I masked that part off, see the two little red lines?
Besides, it's not like the extra 1/4" of thickness on the shroud matters in the least, especially compared to a foregrip and backbottle setup.

[ThePixelGuru]

That and the stock automag 68's didn't come with a vert adapter or 'bicycle' grip. At the time the Minimag got its name, the 68 came with the rail mounted ASA, a little U of braided line and a crown point barrel. If you held them up to each other, the vert adapter and extended stainless body more than made up for the missing end of the crown point (weight and bulk). It wasn't until you saw one with a 3.5 oz bottle that the "mini" made any sense.

With the same barrel, I would bet money the Minimag is heavier than a stock 68 with or without the vert adapter, since the only difference is the extra stainless body on the Minimag.

Pardon the doube post, my iPod doesn't let me combine them easily...

Well, the vertical adaptor and backbottle ASA probably cancel each other out. Regardless, the stock Mknimag setup is smaller - it doesn't make much sense to claim the Minimag is bigger because of the shroud. It's like saying a painted part is bigger because of the layer of paint. Technically you'd be right, but neither would hinder your ability to play tight to a bunker or the like. Besides, the vert bottle setup eliminates the need for either an expansion chamber or foregrip, which were so common that the bike grip became a stock fixture on the Automag.

[Raven001]

Yeah, I masked that part off, see the two little red lines?
Besides, it's not like the extra 1/4" of thickness on the shroud matters in the least, especially compared to a foregrip and backbottle setup.

Sorry but I can't see the two red lines. My employer has a firewall that prevents me from seeing most pictures and other things.

Getting back to the shroud part it is a lot longer than a quarter of an inch in comparison to the classic mag. That is what I assume Spyder was originally refering to. With a 10 in barrel, their both the same length.

[Spider-TW]

Once you get into setups and accessories, even a ULE mag can go fat. The only real comparison I think you can make is the 68 and minimag of the same vintage, with the same options. After Minimags came out, I was able to order an AGD vert adapter for an expansion chamber for my 68. Obviously, I had no foregrip in an adapter already.

Technically, there were only three differences in a 68 and a minimag; the laser etching, the vertical adapter instead of the back bottle adapter, and the body. So, at the time and bone stock, the Minimag was larger than a 68.

Actually, Pix, I wish you could pull up the current catalog pages for both of them now and show me how it's changed.

[ThePixelGuru]

Sorry but I can't see the two red lines. My employer has a firewall that prevents me from seeing most pictures and other things.

Getting back to the shroud part it is a lot longer than a quarter of an inch in comparison to the classic mag. That is what I assume Spyder was originally refering to. With a 10 in barrel, their both the same length.

Nah, referring to width rather than length. Saying the shroud makes it bigger is like saying that your barrel being a quarter inch bigger makes your marker too big. Technically you might be right, but it'll never be enough to make a difference in a game.

[ThePixelGuru]

Once you get into setups and accessories, even a ULE mag can go fat. The only real comparison I think you can make is the 68 and minimag of the same vintage, with the same options. After Minimags came out, I was able to order an AGD vert adapter for an expansion chamber for my 68. Obviously, I had no foregrip in an adapter already.

Technically, there were only three differences in a 68 and a minimag; the laser etching, the vertical adapter instead of the back bottle adapter, and the body. So, at the time and bone stock, the Minimag was larger than a 68.

Actually, Pix, I wish you could pull up the current catalog pages for both of them now and show me how it's changed.

Double post, iPod, sorry, etc.

You've got a point about there not being one end-all be-all Automag 68 to compare, though. I immediately jumped on your post because I don't like the "shroud makes it bigger" comments, I tend to associate them with annoying kids in my philosophy classes trying to come up with some pseudointelligent nitpicking point to make themselves feel smart. There was more backing to your post than that, though, so my bad.

Shame about the Automags/Minimags not being in stock, though. It made me sad that I had to go Google for AGD's stock Automag picture. It's always kind of sad when a piece of living history like the classic Automag makes that transition to actually being truely in the past. Guess that means it's time to get hoarding.

[Spider-TW]

Guess that means it's time to get hoarding.

Yeah, I've been dragging my feet on a pump mag, and the stainless valve is perfect. After my low end experience with a pump cocker, I'm starting to look for an easy deal on any of the old ones.

Will the pump kits fit the minimag body?