how about any of the old 3rd party aftermarket parts for the automag? (on/off tops, bolts, replacement regs)
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Again, I think the biggest gimmick of all time truly must have no value, since there have been many products that fall into this category. Simply not living up to claims is not enough, if the product has legitimate uses. Low pressure can quiet and change the feel of a marker, plus allow deeper shooting into the tank. It also helps CO2 operate at high ROF/temperature extremes (the real original purpose of LP).Originally posted by ThePixelGuruTough to say, but I'd have to go with anything "low pressure" because it's so all-encompassing. Low pressure whatevers are more accurate, shoot farther, groom your dog, and are just plain better.
Other gimmicks like longer barrels, rifled barrels and closed bolt markers are believed to do just some of what low pressure is believed to do. Also, the immense success of low pressure makes it the most widely-used gimmick - that combined with the fantastic claims of whatever it's supposed to do have got to make it the "biggest" gimmick of all time.
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i think you guys are overstating some of those.
For bolts: I have two for my nerve, one hole and another with 3 holes. There is a direct 20-30 FPS difference. Name it venturi if you want.
Barrels: Some of my guns work stellar on 14 + 16" lengths and get higher FPS than when I use 10 or 12". Call if what you will, i'm not selling anything I just know that I did my own testing with same paint/barrel back/tip (just diff length) and the I got 10-15 fps higher on the longer, I actually use the 16" on that gun bc of it. Now on my other guns I saw no difference or even negative FPS. Don't ask me why. I only shot each length with 20 pballs each, could be that. As I said I'm trying to prove anything here.
other stuff is gimmicks, but probably over 90% of all sales are gimmicks. For one reason or another they "work" better than something else.
The smart mag plus Open Vs closed bolt would be high on the list i think. Though I do like having open and closed bolt guns, plus mechanical and electro guns. That is NOT a gimmick, that is my shooting preference and how I enjoy shooting many different feeling/shooting markers. Saying one is better is the issue."Accuracy by volume has been, and will remain, the best way to score eliminations" Tom Kaye
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Just because it has another use doesn't mean it's not a gimmick. If someone bought a low pressure marker because they thought it was going to be more accurate or shoot farther, it's a gimmick. Also consider "low pressure" mods that don't do anything at all, like the Magic Box. Well, I suppose you could argue it's useful if you want to get fewer shots out of each tank...Originally posted by drgComment
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Paintballs with fins
I'm shocked that no one has mentioned the early to mid 90's "Paintball with fins" gimmick!!! I'm impressed with the above post about the football shaped paintballs, which were really supposed to be more oblonged. Yes it was supposed to be clip fed, but never got into production despite the ads and promotion, at least that is what I remember.
The paintball with fins is my favorite, with the requisite to have to muzzle load the paintball down the barrel, for a single shot. What a gimmick.
The smart parts magic box did lower the operating pressure, no doubt. Also, I think that PCRI did a fairly indepth review on it's performance back in probably 1995 or 1996.
and so now....someone will be asking "what the heck is PCRI?"
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the indisputable top of the paintball gimmicks list - PAINTBALL SPECIFIC LUBE
guess what, its all exactly the same. companies simply buy off the shelf mineral oil and mineral grease, and then add a thinkening powder, and then sell it to you for a 500% mark up.
and to this day, people will defend being ripped off so they can get "the best" lube out there."because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"Comment
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Site is not up anymore, any anyone remembers crazy Dave's bargain paintball?
The expansion chamber on the guns he sold blew up. Apparently in the same exact place every time. He sold a 22" "Doomstick", and compared it to a Boomstick. There was a lot of other products that made me
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The crown point barrel.
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I know it is a typo, but "thinkening powder" is excellent. :rofl: It is truly a magical additive, that's what the markup is for.Originally posted by cockerpunk
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I think aftermarket boards are a gimmick to a degree. I mean come on, "Upgrade to the new ***** 10bps board now!" Ha, yeah right. Why shoot electro if you can only shoot 10bps and why by an aftermarket board for a louzy 10bps. If your $500 electro marker can't shoot 10bps stock, you have problems. Grab a Mag and be done with yourself fool!!!!! Am I the only person that finds this to be very odd?Comment
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Do you think this extends to AKA? They do not recommend other lubes simply because they don't know what's in them. Hype or not, I am not putting anything in a viking or excal except AKA lube.Originally posted by cockerpunkComment
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Originally posted by drewkroeker
I am far from an expert on lubrication, but I tend to agree with what cockerpunk says about it.
Basically you are talking petroleum, or mineral based lubricant, and high or low quality. By now we all "know" it is (supposedly) better to use mineral based oils so it doesn't "eat our orings"....Buy a quality air tool oil and it is pretty much the same thing. And as far as grease goes, I almost exclusively use Dow33, which is just a silicone base.
Years ago Tippmann used to recommend and include a small amount of Hoppes (petroleum) based oil with thier markers. I have to be honest, that I used that oil for a long period of time in every marker I had that required oil and NEVER had a failure that I could attribute to the petroleum based lube "eating" the oring. Most anything that moved needed replacement or repair from different things long before that. Such as a hammer oring, etc...Am I saying the petroleum had no effect? NO, you could see the damage done to static orings over the course of a long period of time, but well longer than most would have went ahead, serviced and replaced them.
Not that I would suggest throwing Hoppes in a Vike, but I REALLY don't think that you are going to hurt anything with a high quality mineral based air tool oil that you can buy a pint of at a local hardware cheaper than the shipping on something that is "for" a paintball marker.
I can not confirm it, but I have long suspected that WDP's "love juice" was in fact transmission fluid for a long period of time, bottled up, and sold as a special composition "only for Angels".Last edited by punkncat; 03-08-2009, 10:55 AM.Comment
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AKA lube and AGD lube are both just synthetic pneumatic tool oil. i bought a pint of it 3 years ago at the hardware store for 7.50, and havn't bothered with anything else since.Originally posted by drewkroeker"because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"Comment
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Spoke too soon?Originally posted by Scott HudnallI'm shocked that no one has mentioned the early to mid 90's "Paintball with fins" gimmick!!! I'm impressed with the above post about the football shaped paintballs, which were really supposed to be more oblonged. Yes it was supposed to be clip fed, but never got into production despite the ads and promotion, at least that is what I remember.
The paintball with fins is my favorite, with the requisite to have to muzzle load the paintball down the barrel, for a single shot. What a gimmick.
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