My, this looks almost silly...

[snoopay700]

On this setup the air source (at ~800 psi) is on the valve facing the reg back. So, yes, the oring will pop, but it will not vent the air down until the tank is finished. Also, those threads are pretty short and there is not a lot left by the time the oring is out. It's not a jet situation, just a pop possibility with a particularly nasty projectile.

Again, SFL, same thing, no problems. Listen.

[Beemer]

Again, SFL, same thing, no problems. Listen.

I guess I missed something.

[snoopay700]

I guess I missed something.

Last post on the previous page. I mentioned SFLs don't have the z-groove either and nothing bad has happened with them.

[Spider-TW]

Last post on the previous page. I mentioned SFLs don't have the z-groove either and nothing bad has happened with them.

Do SFLs have a straight groove? Or are you saying the reg has the pin removed?

**edit**

From what I can find, the SFL had a screw to hold the reg in place that many people didn't use. So far, I have not heard of any AGD mag that did not have some means of keeping the reg from turning out.

I'm not saying I think it will jet across the garage and put a dent in your car. I do think it is unwise to give 800 psi air a chance to vent uncontrolled, especially in direct contact with a small chunk of stainless steel. I consider well oiled threads and orings under vibration something that will come apart eventually. The idea of loctite or locking grooves is that you don't have to wonder if it will happen between the last time and the next time the connection is checked.

[snoopay700]

SFLs and the rail milled so the z-lock wasn't there, i have head of no such screw to hold in the reg, and they are fine. That is my point, with that groove it seems AGD was just following the old rule of engineering of making everything twice as strong/safe as it needs o be, so it's not a good idea to have one without the pin, but i don't think it would harm anything.

Sorry, not the rail, the body. Ugh, i wish i had time to sleep before calc.

[cyberave68]

For those of you insterested there are a few parts kits that showed on ebay for AirAmerica raptors. Kinda funny i read this thread and then did some searching on any new mag parts and got this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Automag-Air-Amer...d=p3286.c0.m14

Not to hard to find ATM so if you need/want them go get em...

Cy

[ManInBlack]

I just rebuilt a couple of mine with mag reg seats.

[Shane-O-Mac]

I just rebuilt a couple of mine with mag reg seats.

Do not use Mag seats in AA air systems, they are too soft and will not work properly. Using a Mag seat in a secondary reg is ok, just use the mag reg pin also. I had a mag using a Black Ice piston housing (Same as Raptor, but aluminum) and no z-lock. The problem is that it will rotate as you shoot and RAISE the velocity. I used a drop of red loctite, to lock it in place. Use 2 drops of blue if you skittish about red loc-tite. IIRC, the z-lock is to keep the valve form coming out by user error or the field strip screw snapping off. IIRC there was a tiny batch of field strip screws that weren't made of SS and they had problems. As I have said before, if you use a Raptor piston housing, make sure you use the Mag spring pack AND Mag piston.

Also, do not buy any AA rebuild kits were the seat is slightly yellow tinted, they should be bright white, otherwise they are not the proper seats, and will not work right.

[Dirge]

For those of you insterested there are a few parts kits that showed on ebay for AirAmerica raptors. Kinda funny i read this thread and then did some searching on any new mag parts and got this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Automag-Air-Amer...d=p3286.c0.m14

Not to hard to find ATM so if you need/want them go get em...

Cy

Hat not looked in a while (long while........). Last time I looked, iisports had the yellow ones. I will order a pack or two soon. The ole Appoclpse has needed a new seat for years.

Nice find btw.

[michbich]

I'm not sure, and i' probably wrong on this one. But about SFL, if they did have the zpin, wouldn't it be held by the rail lip? That's assuming it doesn't clear the rail.

[pump]

i always knew that the AA regs would screw into AGD regs, but i never knew that it would be like that

i wonder.....would those aluminum reg backs fit???

[ManInBlack]

I've decided I like the mag like this and am going to leave it this way. There is a bit of rail that's hanging off the back not doing anything, so I was thinking about chopping that down as well.

Cutting it off here at an angle:


To turn this:

Into this:


(I know you're all impressed by my mad photoshopping skills )

Now, I haven't seen many rails like mine around (I think it's a Taso rail) and I'm just curious if there's any historical value to it that should prevent me from slicing it up? I donno, it came with my gun when I originally got it and other than the front half of the valve it's the only original piece left. Any thoughts?

[trevorjk]

pics of inside of rail?

[ManInBlack]

[warpfeedmod]

Doesn't look like chopping the rail down would harm anything, just make sure you leave enough meat behind the screw to hold the reg to the rail/frame.