Hello Automag Owners! First a little about myself, I'm 16 years of age and I've been playing paintball since January of 2002. MIR are my initials and I play woodsball as a Sniper. Not that guy that sits in the back, the guy that runs to the 50 and ambushes. I've gone through many markers including one .68 Classic Automag. So recently I've acquired every Snipers dream marker. The Tac One Longbow. Now I figure it's time to learn a little bit about the beast underneath the shroud. I know somw of the basics like how it comes with an X Valve, and Level 10 bolt stock. I know what the level ten does and have been reading the "stickies" on this forum to learn more. However I don't know anything about the X Valve or anything else on the marker for that matter. So I guess my question to you is what's so good about the Tac One? What are its tendencies? What should I know about it
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1. You're not running co2 through it. Theoretically you can, but note the word "theoretically".
2. Lubing consists of simply dropping 5 drops of oil in the ASA or a macro fitting and dry firing about 20-30 shots through the gun without the barrel on.
3. Over the chrono you're going to need to chrony it differently. Fire one shot and hold the trigger down. Release the trigger and fire another shot in quick succession. Adjust and repeat as necessary. This will account for shoot-up that you'll get while shooting fast on the field.
4. Unlike the Classic valve, your X-valve is capable of over 26bps without shootdown. Independent tests have actually yielded results of 34bps without any visible shootdown. Of course you're not going to be pulling anywhere near that on a semi-auto mechanical, but if you get an adjustable output tank and crank it up to 1000psi, you can "rapid fire" the gun. -
First of all, if you put four shims in the power-tube and set your tank output to 850 psi, you'll get very fast RT effect (turning your longbow into a BAR-like paint-gun). As mentioned, you will ONLY be using HPA. Any Co2 inside the gun, and it's toast, end of story. The amount of shims and tank output will determine the reactivity of the gun.Comment
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Ok I appreciate all of the answers! Shooting fast isn't at all an issue for me. I own a 48c.i. 4,500 p.s.i Guerilla Air tank so HPA is taken care of. Care to go a little more in depth about these shims? What effect do they have on the marker and why? Do I want more, less, or a fine balance?Comment
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Um, shimming the powertube has nothing to do with RT effect. I think you mean the on/off. And unless he has a ULT, he can't shim the on/off. An RT on/off is better for RT effect anyways.Originally posted by MAGslingerComment
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So should I disregard everything I just heard about "shimming"?Comment
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Also co2 does not toast an x valve. There is nothing in it that will be hurt by co2. It just will freeze up very quickly rendering you helpless, which is a bad thing for you, but it will not toast the valve.Comment
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That makes sense. Worst case you may destroy some O-Rings I suppose.Comment
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Is this all the information I can get on a website dedicated to Automags!?! Come on! Tell me more. Tell me anything, I want to lear more!Comment
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You say youve got a guerilla air tank, does that have the Myth regulator on it?
if so you may have issues, mags are high pressure guns and function best with 700-900 psi input, the myth is set at about 600Comment
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Hmm. That doesn't sound good. It has the Myth on it. So I may need another tank or at least another regualtor? It claims "high pressure" but it may not satisfy the pressure needs of my Tac One still? That would really suck, I love my tank...Comment
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ok so you want more information... well im the knowledge bucket so ill splurge what i know.
HAVE A FUN READ!
the tac one is a lightweight aluminum comprised marker that is capable of 34 bps and +/- 1 at the chronograph, it has a mechanical sear that is used to both hold the bolt back and stop airflow in the valve (at different times of course).
It is essentially a 3 phase marker which makes it very simple. The air is brought into the valve and regulated, the sear rod is pushed to release the bolt and block the air which then fires the gun, the spring returns the bolt.
the tac one comes in 2 different body styles vertical feed and warp feed, the xvalve comes in many different styles and the level 10 bolt has 3 main components, the carrier o-ring, the carrier, and the shims. These 3 things control everything about the bolt cycle from reactivity to FPS to anitbolt chop. the carrier o-ring and the carrier size control the efficiency of the marker from shot to shot and control whether or not there will be bolt stick or leaking from the valve. The shims (if too many) will cause leaking and if too few will not allow for the proper bolt chop prevention. The tube tip was replaced from a smarter idea of a coin tightening tip to a hex tightening tip which essentially creates the possibility for stripping and overtightening of the powertube tip
The tac-1 took the most inventive parts at the time and used them to make the ultimate body. They took the universal threading of the A/C barrel, the Angel detent easy removal style, and the commonly found (at the time) angel threaded feedneck.
the length of the body virtually allows for almost any rail to be mounted. The body length allows for AM/MM length rails as well as RT/emag length rails to be used. With the RT length of the body, it allows for the use of almost any frame as well. Emag lowers, chimera, Logic UMF, cerberus, RPG ULF, hyperframe, and any older frame just to name a few.
the tacs valve weighs 7.5 oz (roughly) and the bolt and spring weigh 1.25 oz (roughly). This makes for one of if not the lightest completey regulated firing and cycling systems ever created.
The x-valve uses a dump chamber for air that is stored meaning that unlike solenoid style markers where the amount of air that is released can differ by miliseconds causing differences in FPS, the xvalves dump chamber fills with regulated pressurized air to the same amount each time creating an extremely consistant shot.
the xvalve utilizes a complete regulator built in to the valve which is capable of regulating air to the exact psi everytime in a very rapid manner. This means that there is never shoot down and therefore makes the tac-1 one of the most consistant markers ever made, if not the most absolutely consistant marker ever.
Due to the level 10 bolt some argue it is more accurate as well because the bolt moves with less force and slower for the first part of the cycle which allows the ball to be pushed past the detent supposedly preventing spins on the ball that getting dragged along the ball detent could cause.
tac-1 has forever been deemed the fastest mechanical marker ever due to its RT nature. The valve (unlike classic valves and rt valves) pushes air on the on/off pin which pushes the sear and resets your trigger for you which effectively gives you an RT effect with the correct amount of pressure on the trigger.
However... the main thing that makes the tac-1 an absoulte beast is that it is made by AGD which ensures quality and massively high tolerances which proves that quality shoots straight (as seen in the tac one)
if there is anything else you wanna know send me a pm... and i hope you had a fun little readComment
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Great post! Makes me want to forgo an emag and buy a tac-one,lol. Or just go back to the original idea of putting together an e-tac. now where did I leave that wad of cash. LoLComment
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haha ya, i certainly love my etac its the best feeling in the world to shoot
*looks around for girlfriend and runs away as she sees that last comment*
i mean... its a great feeling but there are some other things that just cant be beat
*waits till girlfriend leaves*
but in all honesty its a true mag-o-gasm to shootComment
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I have been away from the sport for a while. Just to give you an idea of how long its been the emags were not out when I stopped playing.
Just getting back into it now. hoot hoot! Bought a mini mag on eBay, comes in on Friday, just to get started and expect to get make it a mini-E or pick up an E-tac soon enough.
Still tryiing to filter through the forum to see what I have missed from the last 8 or so years.
Was the e-Teac a factory marker or have they always been assembled by players from a emag and an tac upper?Comment
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