Tiberius Sniper Rounds, Info from TK

[dark blade]

not 100% true... some scenarios around my hometown in MA are BYOP

[Zone Drifter]

This is very interesting. I had been contemplating getting a tib pistol simply because I like to run around alot in scenario games and the lighter the load, the better. An actual accurate shot would be extremely useful for those of us who like to travel light, or even commanders in those big games. the main thing abut these, is that most places only allow field paint, so it might be useless anywhere but for rec play. Also, how does the impact of the bolt effect the fins, and how can they be shot normally by putting them in backwards? Still too many questions and I'm sure they will be answered in time. Still, a very interesting concept that I hope to see more about!

[Stargazer54]

Thanks for answering some questions I had about this.
Does anyone know if these are plastic, or gel? The 303
rounds are made out of plastic for those not aware of it.

Sincerely,

[McMahon]

This may be a dumb question but what are the casing and fins made out of?

[billmi]

Sniper round eh.. does it fly farther?

I am very skeptical

According to Gary Gibson from Perfect Circle Paintball, you can expect to have one shot eliminations at 150 feet.

There's a video interview of him talking about the new projectiles in the Paintball Extravaganza episode of PigTV at http://www.PigTV.net.

I would disagree with the claim that this is the first sniper round, as there were paintballs with coned back ends with fins glued to them marketed many years ago as muzzle-loaded sniper rounds. This does look like the first *practical* sniper round though, as there already exist markers capable of magazine feeding them (albeit for LEO use at higher velocities) and we should see retrofit kits to allow them to be magazine fed in all of the Tiberius markers within a month.

[Swamp Thing]

UMS Info

This is info from my Sponsor who has good relationship with Tiberius and who just attended the Atlanta Trade show

"it's here. It does exist. I'm bringing several tubes of 8 home with me.

It's related to an already established LTL round/system.

Tiberius is offering it as a retrofit upgrade for any Tiberius 8 or 9.

Pricing will be under $200 (prob around $150). The new First Strike will also allow you to use regular paint in addition to the First Strike rounds.

The FS rounds are plastic shelled that are photo/bio degradable.

Fields will be carrying the rounds soon as well as the fields field paint. There are prob a lot of fields that will waive the FPO rule for these since they will be a specialty item and much narrower spectrum than round paint.

Pricing will be "high", but not bad. It cost a lot to develop/manufacture, but once you figure out a general shots/kill and shots/accuracy ratio, they are actually a great value for a lot of us heavy triggers
Pricing is tentatively set at $5.95/8 rounds ($.75 ea)

IMHO I think they will have a very significant impact on our sport.
I personally plan on running/gunning with the First Strike system as my primary.

FYI: The general designs have been drawn, parts and materials have already been ordered. Underground Mod Shop will have an exclusive short run "signature series" available est around two months out. They will be "substantial" on the grand scale of overall coolness, not just the PCS (paintball cool scale)(tm ums)"

Also I bet you can talk a field owner to wave FPO for a small fee for this round only. They can not be shot from a hopper so you are really not talking about a round that will cost him most of his paint sales.

Swamp
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[mostpeople]

I personally plan on running/gunning with the First Strike system as my primary.

Full steam ahead on the failboat!

[MANN]

lol.

This is a good idea, but paintballs dont go fast enough to make this a GREAT option.

I will try it before making a final decision, but IMO it would be hard to make it better than what we have already. I can already shoot someone 40 ft away on the first/second shot.

[hitech]

Very interesting. I always thought increasing the spin rate might work but couldn't get manike to try it.

[Old School 626]

While this is novel and interesting, I see this as setting paintball back about 20 years. Back to stripper clips. Time to update the SMG 60's to 68 cal? I can see Tippman salivating over this, or calling the patent lawyers getting ready to use the SMG-60 as prior art.

[doc_Zox]

[Dend78]

these things would be a pumpers dream if you had a mag fed pump

[Muzikman]

Cool idea. I need to pick me up some of those.

Looks about right.






BTW, Hi Tom...good to know your still kicking.

[manike]

I had the booth opposite Tiberius at the Paintball Extravaganza to show off the Prophecy loader, I recognized Gary, even though I hadn't seen him probably since 1997! It took him a few seconds then he recognized me too.

We talked through the projectiles and I am very excited to see these hit the market. I'll be working on my FN303 to get the velocity down then I'll shoot some and do a video. Tyler promised me a kit for my Tiberius 8 too. I can't wait.

Thanks to Gary and Tyler for giving me some of the projectiles to test out. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Spider-TW]

Accuracy I believe, and at that cost, clips make sense. It's a minie ball vs a regular ball.

With the back being hollow, I would think they could redesign the fins a little to reduce the wash on the back and give the airflow a little more taper. Those fins look almost the same as the FN303 rounds.