Sniper Breach Mods

[Swamp Thing]

Anyone out there going to jump in and make a breach mod that can be used for the new Tiberius Sniper Round

I think a new breach for the 2009 Micro could work well. Have it either grvity feed down or spring feed from a horizontal.

Swamp

[Smoothice]

have you seen the spring fed 10rnd tubes noxx 55 is making?

Something like that but with a oblong shaped tube.

But the breech mod will be the tough part.

I would think any mag or marker that has a removable breech could have a new breech made.

[trippleRipple]

have you seen the spring fed 10rnd tubes noxx 55 is making?

Something like that but with a oblong shaped tube.

But the breech mod will be the tough part.

I would think any mag or marker that has a removable breech could have a new breech made.

I guess these round would not be used on the wholesale level that our standard paint ball rounds get used. so maybe a single shot design like a side by side shotgun might be the easiest way.

It would be single shot but a fairly easy and quick reload process.

[Swamp Thing]

Possibilities

Here are the only practical ways I can see to use these

1. Use your standard gun and load by takeing off the barrel.

2. Use your standard gun and load by dropping down the feed neck. (May have some issues getting it to line up correctly)

3. Mod or buy a new Tiberius that is rigged to use this round

4. Mod a gun to be a bolt action manually loaded gun

5. Produce a modified breach for guns like the X mag or 2009 Micromag that can accept an alternate breach.

Can anyone think of another option??

Swamp

[Spider-TW]

What is the overall length of the round? All I can find are diameters.

[skyless]

I like the shotgun thought, Like a break action where there is a hing on the rail so the body would open between the breach and the barrel, still one shot at a time but would be pretty fast. That way you could still be using regular balls if you could stop the feed to load the sniper round.

[MoeMag]

Tippmann SMG-60



How about that...

anyone still have one?

[insixdays777]

I think a cam arm system like on the Omen would woork well for this type of round...cam arms would be operated with pump or bolt, spring would push rounds down clip/ cam arms push in breach....

[Smoothice]

I like the shotgun thought, Like a break action where there is a hing on the rail so the body would open between the breach and the barrel, still one shot at a time but would be pretty fast. That way you could still be using regular balls if you could stop the feed to load the sniper round.

Problem with hand loading these is they are not shotgun shells. They are fairly delicate tiny paintballs.

You can't just stick them on a belt like shells. And if you plan on taking them out of the current tube they come in then you are going to need 2 hands just to take them out.

I would also like to know how these measure from tip to tail.

[DevilMan]

hmmmm... never had one of the SMG's... may have to dig one up now... it would be the first tippman I'd ever own...



Here's an idea I drew up just now...



The black is the outline over all.
The red would be a feed ramp that sat on top/was made to the blue which is a slider that sits on top of the spring which is green. There would be a knob on the front and the back of the slider to slide it down and latch it like a PT Extreme mag. The purple at the top is meant to be a dovetail slot that you could mill onto a breech to go onto an X or Micro mag. you could keep two or three of the mags loaded and ready and just slip it down onto the dovetail on the side to use em. Then reload the magazines when you got a chance.

DM

[vivalamexico]

What about a spring fed drum magazine like on a jackhammer shotgun. The round is always pointed forward and doesnt have to reorient itself at any time during loading. Plus its a drum so its more compact then having a long magazine type loading system.

[Swamp Thing]

Drum would work

the FN 303 uses a drum mag so perhaps it could be modified to be used on a paintball gun or perhaps they can make a baby bro to the real life version. The real life can unit has a version that can be mounted to a M-16 so the ultimate IMO would be to have it like an over/under combo where you have a marker with standard rounds as well as a drum fed long distance marker to use when that is needed.

The above is fantasy but why not dream big.

Swamp

[Thotograph]

I think it'd be fun to cut up a sniper pump. Maybe a breach loader or small spring/gravity fed ammo box that sits on top and holds an extra round or two. If they are as accurate as they say you won't need many. Considering how cheap Phantom bodies are you could mod up one of them if you want to keep it small and lightweight. It's be so cool to see a break breach type gun (maybe work with a phantom platform) made with this round in mind. If this becomes a viable product we could very well see another company design a gun around it. Provided Tiberius doesn't withhold the right to do so.

I think it'd be a blast to have a T9 slung on your back kitted up with this conversion and then run a standard marker as well for scenarios. Something light and tight like maybe a mag on a remote (like the milsim micro I plan on building). So you can run n gun with your standard rig and then whip out the sniper rifle if you get into a concealed spot near the base and want to assasinate a general or whatever. I dunno just fantasizing about some great glory kill. I think I'm gonna get a used T9 and have it swapped over at some point. I've got a T8 but I'm gonna leave her as is. No sense in converting a pistol imo.

Props to PCP and Tiberius. This is really really cool stuff.

[Spider-TW]

I would also like to know how these measure from tip to tail.

So they're ~.686 or ~.679

That's an easy breech mod if the bolt catches them properly. I wonder if you could grind back a ULE body and drop the round in the top. Not that it's practical, just an interesting test.

[Hilltop Customs]

Here are the only practical ways I can see to use these

1. Use your standard gun and load by takeing off the barrel.

2. Use your standard gun and load by dropping down the feed neck. (May have some issues getting it to line up correctly)

3. Mod or buy a new Tiberius that is rigged to use this round

4. Mod a gun to be a bolt action manually loaded gun

5. Produce a modified breach for guns like the X mag or 2009 Micromag that can accept an alternate breach.

Can anyone think of another option??

Swamp

Dropping the round in the feedneck will be nearly impossible to do, the rounds would have to be dropped in vertically, then rotated inside the breach....thats not going to be possible since the round is longer than a paintball. It might be possible if the round is pushed and the fins deformed, but I really dont think it will work.

Find or make a D shapped feed tube for the rounds and cut a D shaped hole in the breach. Old SS mag bodies would be perfect for this. I'd also spring load the feed tube.

Gravity feeding these rounds from a tube could cause some problems, even if the rounds are correctly oriented in a feed tube. Shoot through half the rounds in the tube and there is empty space for the rounds to bounce as you run or move the marker....a round could rotate into a fin up orientation, fall into the breach in that orientation, and get the fins chopped in half. If it needs to be spring fed, it might as well be out of the line of sight and fed from the bottom of the marker.....

The accuracy and distance of these rounds is nice, but I'm pretty sure anyone on a field hand loading single shot will end up getting smoked. Even though they are faster and more accurate, there is still a delay from taking a shot to the ball getting on target...it wont 1 shot 1 kill unless you are a perfect judge of range and the target doesnt move. Something like a 10 round spring fed clip which works for semi-auto would be the best bet IMHO. Tiberius has it pretty much nailed with their marker conversion.