So who has it?

[Beemer]

and how do you know?

The MOST consistent gun at FPS. For to long all it has been about is BPS. What do they tell you and how do they PROVE it. {they dont} All I see or hear is this gun is really consistant.
How do you know, what proof or data do you see? How would you prove it?

Ya I know, I have heard it all before. Why do I ask? It is insignificant. They are all close enough that it doesnt matter. Plus or minus WHAT?? Five FPS, that surely is significant in my book if you want to talk accuracy with a ROUND projectile.

What is the FPS on EVERY BALL at 15 BPS or 10 BPS. Do you have a chrono that will tell you that. Put it on FA and tell me what the FPS is on every ball in one second. I will bet large it is significant.

I have a gun that will shoot plus or minus one at one BPS. Want to buy it??????

[gunangel]

i holeheartedly agree all you hear from reviews is "it looks good, it shoots fast, it is consistent" what's the point of having a marker that can't hit the same spot more than once. most accurate/consistant marker i've seen is an iron man timmy shooting + or - 2 all day at the chrono. well broken in regs are hard to beat. other than that is my triple regulated cocker pump. can't out shoot it so the slow recharge isn't bad but dang it if it ain't consistant.

[Ruler_Mark]

DXS silver, matched SS freak insert, DW 14in barrel, dynaflow, sidewinder, 04 viking with STD lpr and stock tornado valve. well broken in.

279,279,281,280,278,279,280

On rec paint I see +/- 3 with that gun.

On my vlm(aka cocker) pump with rec paint, sidewinder, 12in tightbore javalin, aka internals, dynaflow, midgit'd with cut hammer spring. well broken in

278,275,283,279 forget the rest

On my FEP quest stock internals, 2 Liter, dynaflow. well broken in, 14in DW freak SS insert matched

270,285,279,278,271



On a un well kept 03 viking, 2 liter, std lpr, stock internals, dynaflow

268-285 (was a loong time ago) rec paint


AKA revenge v2 cocker, sidewinder, aka internals, ccm 3 way & ram, kapp lpr, inline slider, dye ul 10in .684, dynaflow. waynes world grand finale 08 paint

274-278


My old tiger mag use to put out +/- 4 on rec paint, never tried on premium with the same DW and tank as 04 vik.




It is ALL about tolerances, tolerances can be worn off case 03 vik above vs 04.



I have own a plethora of cockers, had a stock 04 mech that did +/- 3 with rec paint and a e trilly that did +/- 12. Built a MQ one from sratch that did +/- <1 on average but if it tried todo over 6-7 bps It would lose that, I could tune it to go 18bps +/- 4.

[drewkroeker]

I have a gun that will shoot plus or minus one at one BPS. Want to buy it??????

What type of gun is this?

For the record, no, I am not interested in buying it unless its a g-force mag or the new 09 pump by CCM.

[PsychoBaller]

My Orange 04 Viking got 277, three times in a row at the chrono once... gots witnesses too!,

[BigEvil]

All of those chrono readings you guys are posting, are from single shots. Im interested in what the shots are doing during a fast string. We can shoot 10-15 bps, in a 1 sec string of say 10 shots, what is every single ball doing?

We dont really know do we?

[punkncat]

I think a pact timer will give you BPS as well as shot to shot velocity in a string, or the highest shot in the string...not sure exactly. I know they have a way of seeing with the equipment "they" are currently using. It was in reply to some cheater software that came out a few years ago that was raising velocity in ramping.

At any rate, of what I COULD test, honestly I would have to say that my Xvalved mag(s) were some of the most inconsistant markers I have ever owned. I have always questioned the "method" for chronoing (RT) mags and in my mind have always seen it as sort of a cheat as well. I could easily chrono 20 or so BPS lower than I knew it was going to shoot on field using the "method" as opposed to pulling it "normally".

Of the markers I currently own, my Mini is reliably one of the most consistant. It is commonly +/- 2 BPS over the chrono with most any grade of paint.

[drewkroeker]

I have also found fluctuations when chrono'ing my mags. But they still seem to put my shots where I want them to go. When it warms up and I can get to a field I will put my excal through its paces and see how it compares.

PS: How much of a range do you guys get when chrono'ing an RT mag ie increased velocity at high bps? On my RT Pro I could never shoot that fast so I didn't worry too much about it. With my pneumag I am definitely able to use a lot more of the valve's speed which would definitely heat it up faster.

[chafnerjr]

I think we're going to need mythbusters style high speed camera's to answer this one. I don't know of any chrono that log's velocities of multiple rounds over a specific period of time (at least that we can use). The cheapest way would be to slow down video or have a high speed recording of paint traveling through the air measured against some sort of measuring device... If I had a decent video camera I'd try it... but I don't. Perhaps I can rectify that.

[Me�iCX]

Do we really want to know?? Shouldn't we just let sleeping dogs ly??

I'd like to know. I would think you'd get some shoot down shooting 10+bps.

[tech-chan]

Ice Epic. I have less than 2 fps upswing and down swing in any stream of shots.

[behemoth]

My 07 borg was known to be 278 or 279 with good paint.

+/- 1 would count as pretty good, no?

My droid was was around +/- 3 with shotty paint. Then i sold it. New one, we'll have to see...

[Thotograph]

My 05 Alien has been deadly consistent as of late. Chrono'd +/-1 at Waynes World for the finale and also the last time I took her out. Actually the other weekend I saw it shoot 3 balls the same speed while chronoing (281, 279, 279, 279, 280). Running a AKA SW with long top, stock LPR, bottles used were a 70iReg running the HP piston at Waynes and a DXS LP 48ci 4.5k air sys more recently, stock alien barrel both times, and the paint was formula13 last weekend and empire engage at Waynes. Both paint varieties rolled through smoothly. I think the regs are really starting to come into their own b/c lately the thing has shot lights out consistent. I mean its always been a good shooter playing wise but now the numbers are impressive too.

I also saw my all stock quest chrono with very solid numbers at Waynes (+/-2). Mark was using that gun. Setup was all stock pneumatics with a LP Crossfire tank.

I've noticed my Vikings to be hit or miss. I've seen them do +/-1 and I've also seen them do +/-10 or more. All depends on the condition of the ram (oring inside ram is critical) and the regs. As for mags I find them to be average on consistency. My emag does ok there. My Revenge V2 round body is the most consistent cocker I've shot but atm I can't remember what kind of numbers it did last time out. Maybe I'll run her at Blanding this weekend.

[neppo1345]

I'm confused, is this meant to be some sort of challenge or something?

[Beemer]

All of those chrono readings you guys are posting, are from single shots. Im interested in what the shots are doing during a fast string. We can shoot 10-15 bps, in a 1 sec string of say 10 shots, what is every single ball doing?

We dont really know do we?