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  • MANN
    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
    • Apr 2006
    • 4266

    #1

    Heckler & Koch suing paintball companies

    stolen from MCB

    Originally posted by SHOOT3R USA
    Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. BT Paintball Designs, Inc.
    Lawsuit Details

    RFC Case Number: T-H09-689B
    Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00689-DFH-TAB
    File Date: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
    Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
    Plaintiff Counsel: Brian J. McGinnis, Darlene R. Seymour of Continental Enterprises
    Defendant: BT Paintball Designs, Inc.
    Cause: 15:1125 Trademark Infringement (Lanham Act)
    Court: Indiana Southern District Court
    Judge: Judge David Frank Hamilton
    Referred To: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker

    __________________________________________________ _______________

    Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Tippman Sports LLC et al

    RFC Case Number: T-H09-560T
    Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00560-WTL-TAB
    File Date: Wednesday, May 06, 2009
    Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
    Plaintiff Counsel: Brian J. McGinnis, Darlene R. Seymour of Continental Enterprises
    Defendant: Tippman Sports LLC
    Tigerstripe Paintball LLC
    Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement
    Court: Indiana Southern District Court
    Judge: Judge William T. Lawrence
    Referred To: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker
    __________________________________________________ _____________

    Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Precision Airsoft, LLC

    RFC Case Number: T-H09-485P
    Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00485-SEB-JMS
    File Date: Monday, April 20, 2009
    Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
    Plaintiff Counsel: Darlene R. Seymour - Attorney at Law
    Defendant: Precision Airsoft, LLC
    Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Trademark
    Court: Indiana Southern District Court
    Judge: Judge Sarah Evans Barker
    Referred To: Judge Jane Magnus-Stinson
    __________________________________________________ ___________

    Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Professional Arms, LLC

    RFC Case Number: T-H09-387P
    Court Case Number: 3:09-cv-00387-AC
    File Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009
    Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
    Plaintiff Counsel: Paul G. Dodds of Brownstein Rask Sweeney Kerr Grim
    Defendant: Professional Arms, LLC
    Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement
    Court: Oregon District Court
    Judge: Magistrate Judge John V. Acosta
    __________________________________________________ ____________

    Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Coharie Arms, Inc.

    RFC Case Number: T-H09-184C
    Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00184-RLY-JMS
    File Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
    Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
    Plaintiff Counsel: Darlene R. Seymour - Attorney at Law
    Defendant: Coharie Arms, Inc.
    Special Weapons, Inc.
    Cause: 28:1441 Petition for Removal
    Court: Indiana Southern District Court
    Judge: Judge Richard L. Young
    Referred To: Judge Jane Magnus-Stinson
    Notes: NOTICE OF REMOVAL from Hamilton County Superior Court, case number 29D02-0810-PL-1323.
    I am assuming that it is for some of the milsim markers/accessories that come on some markers. Not sure exactly what it is going to affect. Defiently intresting tho.
  • chafnerjr
    All pneu all the way.

    • Mar 2008
    • 945

    #2
    Originally posted by MANN
    stolen from MCB
    I am assuming that it is for some of the milsim markers/accessories that come on some markers. Not sure exactly what it is going to affect. Defiently intresting tho.
    It's a trademark suit, so the "look" is probably what they are going after... Other than that I have no clue, interesting.

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    • DevilMan
      FeedBack is at my HomePage
      • Aug 2004
      • 2479

      #3
      I would say the "EXACT REPLICA" and "JUST LIKE THE REAL THING" are what they are after. Trying to make sure that the TRUE HK line isn't mixed with the PB stuff.

      DM

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      • robertsr1811
        Long time Lurker

        • Sep 2003
        • 338

        #4
        HK has licensed their trade dress to an airsoft manufacturer, so this is in protection of that licensing.

        If they weren't in the business at all it wouldn't matter to them, the more things that look HK the better, but they're in the airsoft biz now from a licensing standpoint and they need to protect their assets.

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        • SCpoloRicker
          HA HA I'm custom!!1
          • Jan 2004
          • 4375

          #5
          I am going to be buying an HK USP Compact. Not sure on the caliber, it's between 9mm and .45.

          /got nuthin
          God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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          • Loguzzzzzz
            Practice Target

            • Sep 2004
            • 2121

            #6
            Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
            I am going to be buying an HK USP Compact. Not sure on the caliber, it's between 9mm and .45.

            /got nuthin
            Go with the .45 cal way more knock down power.

            I have a USP tactical and that is the most accurate hand gun I own (besides the .22 cal Ruger Mark III bull barrel) and I am almost as big a firearm whore as I am a Paintball gun whore. I believe the current count is 23.

            For the record, I have the HK and a 1911 A1 ang the HK kicks butt over the 1911 A1 I have 2 9 mili's too and prefer to grab and shoot the .45 cal.

            ......You know you want one!!

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            • Rudz
              Registered User

              • Apr 2005
              • 5087

              #7
              Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
              Go with the .45 cal way more knock down power.

              I have a USP tactical and that is the most accurate hand gun I own (besides the .22 cal Ruger Mark III bull barrel) and I am almost as big a firearm whore as I am a Paintball gun whore. I believe the current count is 23.

              For the record, I have the HK and a 1911 A1 ang the HK kicks butt over the 1911 A1 I have 2 9 mili's too and prefer to grab and shoot the .45 cal.

              Crap...they let YOU buy guns....oooh man, when are u adopting me? Paintball, forearms, cool cars, rv, motorcycles, dirtbikes, trucks....crap I'm such a better son than daniel!!!
              BEO MAFIA
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              • Watcher
                aka CavDragoneb12
                • Apr 2008
                • 867

                #8
                Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                Go with the .45 cal way more knock down power.
                Wow, rly? I wasn't aware they made bullets with "knock down power".




                From what I heard, H&K is suing Tippmann and BT for use of the fire selector switch and the depiction of "no bullets", "one bullet", and "many bullets".



                Oh, and Kimber Custom 1911s kick the USP's butt!

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                  Go with the .45 cal way more knock down power.

                  I have a USP tactical and that is the most accurate hand gun I own (besides the .22 cal Ruger Mark III bull barrel) and I am almost as big a firearm whore as I am a Paintball gun whore. I believe the current count is 23.

                  For the record, I have the HK and a 1911 A1 ang the HK kicks butt over the 1911 A1 I have 2 9 mili's too and prefer to grab and shoot the .45 cal.

                  Really? While I appreciate that position if one was going to take it all the way they would argue that there are superior rounds to both available in handguns (10MM anyone?), and both rounds are VERY anemic on the grand scale of things. The fact of the matter is, for all the differences in "power" touted by the defenders of one or the other pistol rounds are far more alike than not.

                  I've bounced around on both sides. Not being a fan of the .40 in any gun I have shot I never seem to make a final decision on the one I like.
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                  • Loguzzzzzz
                    Practice Target

                    • Sep 2004
                    • 2121

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rudz
                    Crap...they let YOU buy guns....oooh man, when are u adopting me? Paintball, forearms, cool cars, rv, motorcycles, dirtbikes, trucks....crap I'm such a better son than daniel!!!
                    Get in line my son!




                    Originally posted by Watcher
                    Wow, rly? I wasn't aware they made bullets with "knock down power".




                    From what I heard, H&K is suing Tippmann and BT for use of the fire selector switch and the depiction of "no bullets", "one bullet", and "many bullets".



                    Oh, and Kimber Custom 1911s kick the USP's butt!
                    Sorry if I used a term you disagree with, I have heard it referenced this way in the past. Please enlighten me if I have misspoken.

                    Are you saying that you would prefer a 9mm to the .45 acp?

                    Not too familiar with the Kimber Custom but they seemed to be comparably priced in today's market. A very fine piece I am sure. Fortunately I purchased my H&K Tactical quite a few years ago, paid under $1K for it.
                    ......You know you want one!!

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                    • Smoothice
                      Registered User

                      • Nov 2006
                      • 4579

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                      Get in line my son!



                      I'm first in line right? Pops

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                      • Loguzzzzzz
                        Practice Target

                        • Sep 2004
                        • 2121

                        #12
                        Loh,

                        I was only commenting on the calibers that SC mentioned. I agree that a 10 mm would be more powerful.

                        I have never shot a 10mm but I have shot a .40 cal before and I was not too impressed.

                        I suppose for pure punch I could dust off my S&W Model 29 8-3/8", my Ruger Super Blackhawk 10" SS or my Desert Eagle .44 magnum! Unfortunately when I was actively buying firearms there was no .50 cal DE yet or that would be in my aresenal. By the way the Desert Eagle is a load to haul around. Better work the biceps to lug that beast!



                        The funny part is that you would think that H&K would be flattered to have their guns depicted in Milsim.

                        Go Figure!
                        ......You know you want one!!

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                        • Lohman446
                          Useful posts: 7
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9315

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                          Loh,

                          I was only commenting on the calibers that SC mentioned. I agree that a 10 mm would be more powerful.

                          I have never shot a 10mm but I have shot a .40 cal before and I was not too impressed.

                          I suppose for pure punch I could dust off my S&W Model 29 8-3/8", my Ruger Super Blackhawk 10" SS or my Desert Eagle .44 magnum! Unfortunately when I was actively buying firearms there was no .50 cal DE yet or that would be in my aresenal. By the way the Desert Eagle is a load to haul around. Better work the biceps to lug that beast!



                          The funny part is that you would think that H&K would be flattered to have their guns depicted in Milsim.

                          Go Figure!
                          I think that all the numbers show that all the carriable pistols are jokes in far as stopping power. Shoot what you can be proficient with and are comfortable with. The get a XX caliber pistol because it has more stopping power while technically accurate is really a false argument. Shoot both, buy what you like .
                          Last edited by Lohman446; 06-08-2009, 03:05 PM.
                          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                          • Loguzzzzzz
                            Practice Target

                            • Sep 2004
                            • 2121

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lohman446
                            Shoot both, buy what you like .
                            I completely agree with that sentiment! I happen to shoot closer groups with the H&K .45. That is what drove my original comment!

                            ......You know you want one!!

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
                              I completely agree with that sentiment! I happen to shoot closer groups with the H&K .45. That is what drove my original comment!

                              Best shooting gun I ever had was a Sig in .357. Don't know why I ever sold that. Great instinct shooter, was just "right".
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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