You know what I love about good old fashioned Woodsball....

[drg]

*edit. How long you have been playing is relevant to the discussion, as it provides a broader spectrum of experience to draw your opinion from. You may have started playing long after these tactics were commonplace..........................

Again the length of time you have been playing has no bearing on whether these tactics are valid or were common. You could just as easily say complete BS as say something factual. You could just as easily be right or wrong, so you should provide the best evidence you have for your case. Trying to validate a point by establishing a common experience based on length of play history is fruitless, because in the first place people are disagreeing with your premise.

If they had the same experience as you, they'd agree. If they didn't, whether they played back then or not, they won't agree and you won't convince them by making an unsubstantiated claim. If you make a claim based solely on your personal opinions and experiences, someone can destroy your claim simply by saying they believe or experienced differently.

The conversation could have gone like this, if people observed logical consistency:

A: Woodsball skills X, Y, and Z have died out in the modern games, and it's tragic.

B: These skills have not died out, they are used in the modern game and can be honed and transferfed from speedball.

A: In my area and experience they are not.

B: In my area and experience they are and always have been.

A: Wow it's good to hear it lives on on some places. Too bad it doesn't in my area.

B: Keep up the good fight.

And that's why logic is important.

[Shane-O-Mac]

Again the length of time you have been playing has no bearing on whether these tactics are valid or were common. You could just as easily say complete BS as say something factual. You could just as easily be right or wrong, so you should provide the best evidence you have for your case. Trying to validate a point by establishing a common experience based on length of play history is fruitless, because in the first place people are disagreeing with your premise.

If they had the same experience as you, they'd agree. If they didn't, whether they played back then or not, they won't agree and you won't convince them by making an unsubstantiated claim. If you make a claim based solely on your personal opinions and experiences, someone can destroy your claim simply by saying they believe or experienced differently.

The conversation could have gone like this, if people observed logical consistency:

A: Woodsball skills X, Y, and Z have died out in the modern games, and it's tragic.

B: These skills have not died out, they are used in the modern game and can be honed and transferfed from speedball.

A: In my area and experience they are not.

B: In my area and experience they are and always have been.

A: Wow it's good to hear it lives on on some places. Too bad it doesn't in my area.

B: Keep up the good fight.

And that's why logic is important.

Holy crap, why have you posted then? blah, blah, blah....................
The only post that isnt logical is yours argueing for logic. Obviously you cannot accept someone else's opinion, as it isnt following your logical theory, or whatever. Give it a rest.

[FutureMagOwner]

I'm failing to see how this whole argument has anything to do with why people love woodsball, and I really don't see why people feel that woodsball and speedball need to be mutually exclusive from one another. I enjoy both, they have their own nuances and similarities. I think what people take issue with is that speedball draws in people that are playing simply to win and not playing for fun, which is when the cheating and attitudes come in to play. Thats not an issue with the game though, its an issue with the people you play with.

[Beemer]

Obviously you cannot accept someone else's opinion, as it isnt following your logical theory, or whatever. Give it a rest.

I agree and since troll warnings were already given, his last post was removed.

[MANN]

this thread makes me laugh.

Last weekend I went and played woodsball. I rushed 3 guys, and started a firefight with the other team 3v1. I eliminated 2 of their players to make it 1v1. (Im not that good..they were just really bad). Anywho I am trading fire with my opponent when a head pops up between us. I take him out before realizing he is on my team. He said he had been crawling for the past 30min. I sorta felt bad, but hey it happens.

Lead, Follow, or get out of my way. That is how paintball goes.

[211]

The main difference I see between woods ball and speed/hyperball (I play both) is cover and concealment
On a speedball course its all cover. The bunkers are solid, and if they are inbetween you and your opponent it will stop a paintball.
In the woods its a mix of cover and concealment. A tree serves the same purpose as an inflatable bunker, its hard cover and will stop a ball, but there is the added factor of concealment. 3 ft of grass will probably not stop a ball, but if used right it will break LOS (line of sight) with your opponent.