Gruntbull messed up my anno AND won't fix it

[Frizzle Fry]

Frizzle: Just to make it clear, I deleted my pbnation thread to not stir up more crap about gruntbull. I was taking into consideration that they would be able to help fix the issue so I gave them a chance before I "tarnished" their name. lol

Other then that, i agree with what you say...

Thanks for clarifying. I did not know that. That said, every thread that gets deleted elsewhere (other than PBN which is frankly not worth much) puts more consumers in the evil grasp of Todd and Ted or whatever the hell their names are, so I hope you don't delete any of the threads here!

[bunny5]

Seeing Beemers post in the other thread , I don't think we will have to worry about it any of these threads getting deleted. Just make sure you don't break any of AO's rules and u'll be fine.

Thinking of it, my original website... www.pbpixels.com was going to be a website about paintball anodizing, where people would have a place to post pictures of their finished guns and to saw if they had a positive or negative experience. What had turned me off of working on it was that I would have to put up with alot of pbnation kind of posters and lost interest in it. I still think it would be a good idea with some type of anodizing review site to know the good or bad side of companies.

Hopefully everything will turn out well for you..

[i8pie2day]

Frizzle so if i go to a car shop and tell him i want the numbers 1-100000000 painted on my car, and he misses number 5, should i get all pissy on him because "the other guy can do it so it must be simple?"


also you said "so what if he has crappy pictures?" ok well what if the lighting changes the color, or that it isnt close to the true color. IM NOT SAYING GRUNTBULL DIDNT SCREW UP... THEY DID!!!! im also not a fan boy of them because they overcharge and yes ive seen all the horror stories.... i am now discouraged from using them.... and i whole-heartedly agree with you in saying that if you cant follow through, then dont advertise it... all im saying is that the OP is misleading us by saying they wont fix it.... where in fact, he wont let them fix it..... and im not a GBA fanboy i just want the truth to be told in an unbiased way.... yeah it was a simple job. GBA screwed him over.... but offered to fix it where as the title says "Gruntbull messed up my anno AND won't fix it."



also i believe that saying its not even close is way off.... it is close in the sense that it was a blue/black acid wash (again back to "i need better pictures to tell") though i agree it was a poorly done acidwash it is still an acid wash....
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[Miltonyz]

also i take your "brown/yellow nose" comment offensive because being yellow refers to being asian and im asian and i consider that very offensive....

No it doesn't and you are wrong. Brown nose is a common phrase for someone that is a sycophant. The asterisks to the footnote is obviously meant to be a joke about the anodizer not being able to color match despite charging high prices. Any racism requires a torturous stretching of intent.

[[NA]WARLORD]

also i take your "brown/yellow nose" comment offensive because being yellow refers to being asian and im asian and i consider that very offensive....

Brown nosing refers to be a butt kisser, ex: That guy kiss so much butt, his nose is turning brown " not racial in anyway shape or form.

Yellow was used to reference a color at the very bottom of the context. However, being "yellow" could be a reference to being called a coward, no race issues were in the entire thread, let alone Frizzle's post. Quit jumping to conclusions and trying to turn this into a political agenda, no where in this entire rant of a thread was race brought into this until you brought it up.

I used to like GB's work in the past, but I see as of most things paintball related, nothing good seems to stick around very long. Carry on gentleman


edit: I agree, the pictures aren't very clear, due to being too much shadowing on them ( makes them look darker ), however, I also agree, it doesn't look like what he hoped he was getting.

[i8pie2day]

ok sorry i was tired and grumpy at the time... and i took that way to offensively...

[Watcher]

1st.
acid wash IS custom, it didn't come from the factory that way, so it IS custom.

2nd.
with custom work, there is a LONG turnaround time, espically with small shops, this is general knowledge in the paintball community. even with a quoted turnaround time, nothing is ever set in stone with time.

Please, that is like saying getting your car sprayed red is custom, because out of the factory it is only either green, blue, or yellow. Many Phantom's have Acids out the factory, if I wanted to re-anno in a different color acid that would be custom work? I don't think so.

Something simple like an acid is not custom, green to black fade with silver splash IS something that would be custom.


Secondly, it wasn't necessarily the fact that the turnaround time was long (longer than advertised) but that GB neglected to call or E-mail the client stating that he is experiencing delays and it might take longer.
Is it too much to ask for a status report, or to even answer a customer's inquiries of their own property?

When my bike was in the shop getting new tubeless tires and recently being rebuilt, I got a call from the tech every time there was an issue or a delay just to let me know what was happening.


The fact is that GB made his customer unhappy. Whether by his own fault or by customer arrogance, the customer was still unhappy.
If I asked for no relish on my hot-dog and they put relish on my hot-dog, I expect them to replace the dog immediately, not "go back in line and we'll fix it for you when it is your turn again". I don't want to wait, I'm hungry!

[Smoothice]

I expect them to replace the dog immediately, not "go back in line and we'll fix it for you when it is your turn again". I don't want to wait, I'm hungry!

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[minimag03]

If I asked for no relish on my hot-dog and they put relish on my hot-dog, I expect them to replace the dog immediately, not "go back in line and we'll fix it for you when it is your turn again". I don't want to wait, I'm hungry!

That's a good point. Only this time the customer ordered relish on his hot dog, and got relish on his hot dog. He just doesn't like the taste of the relish.

[Smoothice]

That's a good point. Only this time the customer ordered relish on his hot dog, and got relish on his hot dog. He just doesn't like the taste of the relish.

You are wrong. More like he ordered relish and got sliced pickles. There is a difference...

[i8pie2day]

ok so if said buyer ordered and just said "i want pickles on my hamburger" and he gets sliced pickles should he go and complain that it wasnt what he wanted. NO... its not that he didnt get his pickles its that it wasnt how he imagined it....

[Smoothice]

ok so if said buyer ordered and just said "i want pickles on my hamburger" and he gets sliced pickles should he go and complain that it wasnt what he wanted. NO... its not that he didnt get his pickles its that it wasnt how he imagined it....

:rofl:

Great argument. You win

[GoatBoy]

so would you walk into a book store, read the whole book then decide if you want to buy it or not? it doesnt exactly work that way....

OK, well that seems to confirm that you are not exactly the book reading type and probably haven't set foot in any bookstores lately... if ever. Unless it was some sort of accident. Not a surprising, yet... not something you probably want to just openly wear on your sleeve.


Beemer does make a good point though. We here are a little spoiled by AGD quality. The stuff might be a little over-engineered and heavy, but it's usually well made, to spec, and if it isn't, it gets fixed. Usually. We're spoiled little brats like that. We want our stuff done, and we want it done correctly.

[i8pie2day]

ok first.... why do you have to insult me because maybe my comment wasnt the best. second I HAVE BEEN IN A BOOK STORY LATELY... and yes i know you read part of a book and then maybe buy it but i havent seen anyone read the full book and then just walk out....

[Frizzle Fry]

ok first.... why do you have to insult me because maybe my comment wasnt the best.

Because throughout this thread you've been making no sense with arguments and analogies that are weak at best and often comical. Also, because you're defending a company that you have nothing to do with who've been screwing customers, at least a handful of whom (Tipp98ChopShop, Bunny5, WarWitch, myself...) are right here sharing our experiences.

Regardless of what you (as someone who has nothing to do with GBA or the other posters) have to say about how our ano schemes turned out or how our we were treated as customers, you have only OUR ACCOUNTS of what is and has been done to us to base your arguments on. You're getting all up in arms about something that has nothing to do with you! This thread wasn't started to have a "Gruntbull Bash-fest" and you certainly don't need to be the knight on the white horse that saves their already shoddy repuation.

People are here to share their negative experiences, share advice, talk about how they can be fixed, and to warn potential customers that there is a LEGITIMATE risk that has been displayed by the company.

Now, maybe the OPs pictures aren't great, but how many other threads have been linked? How many other people have had problems? Haven't you ever heard the phrase "The customer always deserves respect"? How about "The customer is always right"?