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[behemoth]

ITT:

[teufelhunden]

@Punk:

Hell of an investment knowing that it's going to go down in value...

Paintball guns aren't investments, they're like cars. You said it yourself. It's losing value no matter what you end up doing to it. Investments make money, not hold 80% of their original value...

[punkncat]

@Punk:

Hell of an investment knowing that it's going to go down in value...

Paintball guns aren't investments, they're like cars. You said it yourself. It's losing value no matter what you end up doing to it. Investments make money, not hold 80% of their original value...

When you are talking PAINTBALL, then yes investment. Considering that almost any other item you buy in paintball looses well over 20% almost instantly, I would say closer to 50%. I wouldn't suggest it in lieu of a good money bearing account or portfolio, but I am not talking finacial futures, talking paintball.

[teufelhunden]

When you are talking PAINTBALL, then yes investment. Considering that almost any other item you buy in paintball looses well over 20% almost instantly, I would say closer to 50%. I wouldn't suggest it in lieu of a good money bearing account or portfolio, but I am not talking finacial futures, talking paintball.

Is your refrigerator an investment? Your car? Motorcycle? Lawn mower? Is your TV an investment?

None of these things are investments. You may have an old fridge, an old car, bike, lawn mower or TV that provides investment value (generally only because they're old), but no paintball gun that is a) in production currently b) was in production nearly unchanged for a long time or c) has been in production even sorta recently is an investment.

The only real "investments" in paintball one can make are protective gear (not going to make you $, but clearly can pay off in your lack of injuries [opportunity cost]) and in "flipping" underpriced guns.

May be a nice thing to tell your wife to get her to STFU about buying paintball stuff, but don't kid yourself into thinking any of this stuff is an investment, even if you are separating out the meanings. It's not even expensive enough to throw it into that category of "it's really expensive so I want to keep it for a long time so I'll call it an investment" type of deal - i.e., i invested a lot in my home theater system by getting the top-of-the-line stuff.

[Dirge]

Maybe "investment" isn't the right word. "Higher resale value" may be a better term. The nice thing about AGD stuff is that, yes, the value drops about 20%, and stops dropping. Not many makers can claim that (ok, Palmer is another exception).

[DeuceSV]

Edit....see ya in three days for that.

[punkncat]

I agree that perhaps the word "investment" could be replaced for whatever better describes the way you feel about it. In the most litteral sense of the word...no it is not a financial investment, nor any of the goods you buy and use on a daily basis in the most strict of financial terms.

However, I do think that you can "invest" in an item that is better than the norm. You could do a little looking around and find a better fridge, or stove, and you have made a better investment into that particular product.

Really, it is just splitting hairs. I made my point clear enough without us dissecting our particular translation of a word.

Oh and...

3 day Ban

where did that come from?

[punkncat]

Someone mentioned smart parts so naturally someone had to speak out against them to keep everything in balance.

Oh yeah, I forgot that being cool and bashing SP is worth 100 intarwebz.

[Dend78]

Oh yeah, I forgot that being cool and bashing SP is worth 100 intarwebz.

crap it is?!?!?!? dang it see i step away for a month or so and look what happens i got a lot of intarwebz to be gettin

[athomas]

Investment is not a good word to use in this instance, but it does have some merit. Buying good equipment is an investment in your enjoyment factor. A cheap piece of equipment would break down often reducing the enjoyment factor. An overly expensive piece of equipment could reduce the enjoyment factor even if it were reliable, if the cost put a financial burden on the user that lasted into the future and reduced playing time as a result. The automag is a good longterm investment only in the sense that it provides many hours of reliable operation and you can recoup a higher percentage of your initial cost when you do resell it. So, the investment portion represents part of the equipment cost of playing paintball and the enjoyment factor that goes with it.

[chafnerjr]

I understand how you feel, but $500 is still $500. That's a weeks pay for me. 40 hours of busting my , to pay for a gun. This may seem ridiculous but any gun sold in 2009 without a clamping feedneck and an on/off asa is... well.

Funny... I've got about $1500 in mine and $1100-$1200 in my wife's "Because Quality Always Shoots Straight!" Then again... ours have clamping feednecks and on/off ASA's.

P.S. It's worth paying $500 simply to watch everyone stare in horror as you douse your mag with a bottle of water at the end of the day, wipe it off with a rag and leave!

[SSP REAPER]

Funny... I've got about $1500 in mine and $1100-$1200 in my wife's "Because Quality Always Shoots Straight!" Then again... ours have clamping feednecks and on/off ASA's.

P.S. It's worth paying $500 simply to watch everyone stare in horror as you douse your mag with a bottle of water at the end of the day, wipe it off with a rag and leave!

Yup. QFT

[RogueFactor]

I love my ULE but there's no way I'm going to be able to convince the 10 other people I play with to drop 500 for what I got in the box.

Its taken longer than expected...but great prices are just around the corner. Hold tight, there is more to follow in the upcoming season. You may just get to outfit those 10 guys after-all. Competition is a wonderful thing

[snoopay700]

Its taken longer than expected...but great prices are just around the corner. Hold tight, there is more to follow in the upcoming season. You may just get to outfit those 10 guys after-all. Competition is a wonderful thing

Wait, what? i might be able to afford that ULE mag sooner than i thought?

[athomas]

P.S. It's worth paying $500 simply to watch everyone stare in horror as you douse your mag with a bottle of water at the end of the day, wipe it off with a rag and leave!

That reminds me of a tournament I played with my emag. The rest of the guys on my team all had the latest electronic guns. After the first day of play, they all had their guns apart and were cleaning and lubing them for the next day. It took well over 1/2 hour for each gun to properly take them apart and do the job. I plopped mind down, one field screw to remove the valve, a moment to pull it out, wipe it down, pull a rag through the body, put it back and done. Another field screw to remove the battery and put it on the charger. A quick surface wipe. Done in under five minutes and enjoying a beer. They all looked at me funny and remarked "That's it?" To which I replied, "And they never break down either ", as I sipped my beer. They were all quite aware of that stat, as mine was the only gun that had never broken down in a game in the past couple of years that we had been playing together.