I figure since this is going to be a fundamental claim over the next year I have to ask a question. What is the max. effective range of a 68 marker. When is the last time you attempted to eliminate someone with aimed fire at that range? When is the last time you succeeded?
More accurate / more range
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This really isn't an easy answer as it isn't just the ammo that affects range and accuracy. The gun and barrel do also. Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt. Barrel to paint match will affect it. I also am a huge fan of honeing and glazing a barrel for accuracy.
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Lets not forget wind and weather as the biggest factors. I've played games where I had zero accuracy at say 25 feet from someone just because there was a 20mph wind down-field that caused my paint to curve.Originally posted by wetwrksThis really isn't an easy answer as it isn't just the ammo that affects range and accuracy. The gun and barrel do also. Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt. Barrel to paint match will affect it. I also am a huge fan of honeing and glazing a barrel for accuracy.
I was literally almost shooting 90* left of where my intended target was.....
god that sucked lolMy Trader Feedback
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Outside effective range something along the lines of 35 yards or so with "laning" accuracy. I would not bet on hitting exactly what I wanted at that distance, just be able to put them in a general area.
Dead on, hit what I want with good paint something along the lines of 10 yards give or take, probably a bit less if we were talking hit the end of a barrel or something, aside from luck of course.
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On my old pump, I could consistently hit targets with a single shot at 200 ft, without wind of course. Usually there was no wind in the woods. It was a nice lob, but consistent. How you may ask? Back in the day, when paint was more expensive and each shot on the field was critical, we hand picked the balls that we were going to use for the day. Basically we culled out anything that was not round or didn't fit our ball sizer (too big or too small). The balls we used were ones that fit our barrels. Actually, I had a couple of different barrels, so I could select the barrel based on the balls being used. Having consistent rounds allowed extreme consistency. I was able to do the same with my mag when I took the time. Now days, I don't pay as much attention to accuracy in X-ball. I can still supply a consistent string of shots on a 12" plate from one end of the field to another though, with good paint.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.
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I wouldn't say I did it at 200 yards but a good 100 at least. The accurate range for the 3357 seemed to be about 10 yards. At most.Originally posted by athomasOn my old pump, I could consistently hit targets with a single shot at 200 ft, without wind of course. Usually there was no wind in the woods. It was a nice lob, but consistent. How you may ask? Back in the day, when paint was more expensive and each shot on the field was critical, we hand picked the balls that we were going to use for the day. Basically we culled out anything that was not round or didn't fit our ball sizer (too big or too small). The balls we used were ones that fit our barrels. Actually, I had a couple of different barrels, so I could select the barrel based on the balls being used. Having consistent rounds allowed extreme consistency. I was able to do the same with my mag when I took the time. Now days, I don't pay as much attention to accuracy in X-ball. I can still supply a consistent string of shots on a 12" plate from one end of the field to another though, with good paint.
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Back in may I was able to hit I'd say a good 200ft shot out from cover, through a treeline, through the open, and into someone's exposed airtank who was hiding behind a bunker.
It broke. Took me one shot and it took me 2 tries to repeat in a similar situation later.
Conditions were sunny, high 80s/low 90s, medium humidiy, no wind, balls were about .685 bore shot out of a .689+ barrel (Phantom stock barrel and medium-small detent-ring).
Good paint match and I think I could have done better.
Why is that? I suppose autocockers get more range as well, right?Originally Posted by wetwrks
Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt.
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Closed bolt has never been proven to be more accurate than open bolt. That was just a myth started when semis came into the game. The original semis were open bolt and all pumps were closed bolts. The original semis had quite a bit of kick, so they were quite a bit less accurate than pumps, and thus, the myth was started.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.
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You mean *feet*.Originally posted by wetwrksI wouldn't say I did it at 200 yards but a good 100 at least. The accurate range for the 3357 seemed to be about 10 yards. At most.
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boy, it smells in here.
Those of you claiming over 100ft should go ahead and provide some video proof of said feats. If you have to hand select paint or whatever voodoo you have to do, then go for it, just as long as we can verify that the distance and velocity are true. With digital cameras/cell phones and youtube, this should be no problem. No fair using First Strikes. Personally, I think some of your estimates of scale are completely uncalibrated."Accuracy by aiming."
Definitely not on the A-Team.
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I could take a picture of a paint shot on a target. It wouldn't mean anything. I could tell you it was any distance. Pictures mean nothing. Videos at that distance don't mean much either. You don't have the resolution to see the ball, especially in low light, which is usually the case in a wooded area where you need to be to get out of the wind. 200 ft is not really that far. Its only 60 paces. Getting paint to follow the same trajectory is actually quite easy. All you need is consistency. That includes the marker, air supply, barrel, paint. Then, all it comes down to is your own ability to judge distance. That just takes a lot of practice.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.
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