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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    More accurate / more range

    I figure since this is going to be a fundamental claim over the next year I have to ask a question. What is the max. effective range of a 68 marker. When is the last time you attempted to eliminate someone with aimed fire at that range? When is the last time you succeeded?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
  • wetwrks
    Splatting since '85

    • Jun 2007
    • 1828

    #2
    This really isn't an easy answer as it isn't just the ammo that affects range and accuracy. The gun and barrel do also. Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt. Barrel to paint match will affect it. I also am a huge fan of honeing and glazing a barrel for accuracy.

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    • warpfeedmod
      I came, I saw, I painted.
      • Jun 2001
      • 1265

      #3
      Originally posted by wetwrks
      This really isn't an easy answer as it isn't just the ammo that affects range and accuracy. The gun and barrel do also. Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt. Barrel to paint match will affect it. I also am a huge fan of honeing and glazing a barrel for accuracy.
      Lets not forget wind and weather as the biggest factors. I've played games where I had zero accuracy at say 25 feet from someone just because there was a 20mph wind down-field that caused my paint to curve.

      I was literally almost shooting 90* left of where my intended target was.....


      god that sucked lol
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      • wetwrks
        Splatting since '85

        • Jun 2007
        • 1828

        #4
        When I play outdoors I am almost always about accuracy. I tend to go thru very little paint and have a high kill rate. Indoors is another matter, more high rate of fire and less accuracy.

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        • punkncat
          One foot less
          • Feb 2003
          • 5841

          #5
          Outside effective range something along the lines of 35 yards or so with "laning" accuracy. I would not bet on hitting exactly what I wanted at that distance, just be able to put them in a general area.
          Dead on, hit what I want with good paint something along the lines of 10 yards give or take, probably a bit less if we were talking hit the end of a barrel or something, aside from luck of course.

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          • athomas
            Of course it works-its AGD
            • Jan 2002
            • 8039

            #6
            On my old pump, I could consistently hit targets with a single shot at 200 ft, without wind of course. Usually there was no wind in the woods. It was a nice lob, but consistent. How you may ask? Back in the day, when paint was more expensive and each shot on the field was critical, we hand picked the balls that we were going to use for the day. Basically we culled out anything that was not round or didn't fit our ball sizer (too big or too small). The balls we used were ones that fit our barrels. Actually, I had a couple of different barrels, so I could select the barrel based on the balls being used. Having consistent rounds allowed extreme consistency. I was able to do the same with my mag when I took the time. Now days, I don't pay as much attention to accuracy in X-ball. I can still supply a consistent string of shots on a 12" plate from one end of the field to another though, with good paint.
            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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            • wetwrks
              Splatting since '85

              • Jun 2007
              • 1828

              #7
              Originally posted by athomas
              On my old pump, I could consistently hit targets with a single shot at 200 ft, without wind of course. Usually there was no wind in the woods. It was a nice lob, but consistent. How you may ask? Back in the day, when paint was more expensive and each shot on the field was critical, we hand picked the balls that we were going to use for the day. Basically we culled out anything that was not round or didn't fit our ball sizer (too big or too small). The balls we used were ones that fit our barrels. Actually, I had a couple of different barrels, so I could select the barrel based on the balls being used. Having consistent rounds allowed extreme consistency. I was able to do the same with my mag when I took the time. Now days, I don't pay as much attention to accuracy in X-ball. I can still supply a consistent string of shots on a 12" plate from one end of the field to another though, with good paint.
              I wouldn't say I did it at 200 yards but a good 100 at least. The accurate range for the 3357 seemed to be about 10 yards. At most.

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              • Watcher
                aka CavDragoneb12
                • Apr 2008
                • 867

                #8
                Back in may I was able to hit I'd say a good 200ft shot out from cover, through a treeline, through the open, and into someone's exposed airtank who was hiding behind a bunker.

                It broke. Took me one shot and it took me 2 tries to repeat in a similar situation later.


                Conditions were sunny, high 80s/low 90s, medium humidiy, no wind, balls were about .685 bore shot out of a .689+ barrel (Phantom stock barrel and medium-small detent-ring).

                Good paint match and I think I could have done better.


                Originally Posted by wetwrks
                Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt.
                Why is that? I suppose autocockers get more range as well, right?

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                • athomas
                  Of course it works-its AGD
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8039

                  #9
                  Closed bolt has never been proven to be more accurate than open bolt. That was just a myth started when semis came into the game. The original semis were open bolt and all pumps were closed bolts. The original semis had quite a bit of kick, so they were quite a bit less accurate than pumps, and thus, the myth was started.
                  Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                  • MANN
                    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 4266

                    #10
                    Originally posted by wetwrks
                    Closed bolt is much more accurate than open bolt.
                    here we go again

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                    • jade_monkey07
                      Cheater Tac one
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 984

                      #11
                      hahah closed bolt is totally 10000% more accurate

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jade_monkey07
                        hahah closed bolt is totally 10000% more accurate
                        Closed bolt gives you as many advantages as 50 does
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                        • Old School 626
                          Old enough to know better.
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 368

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wetwrks
                          I wouldn't say I did it at 200 yards but a good 100 at least. The accurate range for the 3357 seemed to be about 10 yards. At most.
                          You mean *feet*.

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                          • GoatBoy
                            Junior Mint
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 1399

                            #14
                            boy, it smells in here.

                            Those of you claiming over 100ft should go ahead and provide some video proof of said feats. If you have to hand select paint or whatever voodoo you have to do, then go for it, just as long as we can verify that the distance and velocity are true. With digital cameras/cell phones and youtube, this should be no problem. No fair using First Strikes. Personally, I think some of your estimates of scale are completely uncalibrated.
                            "Accuracy by aiming."


                            Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              I could take a picture of a paint shot on a target. It wouldn't mean anything. I could tell you it was any distance. Pictures mean nothing. Videos at that distance don't mean much either. You don't have the resolution to see the ball, especially in low light, which is usually the case in a wooded area where you need to be to get out of the wind. 200 ft is not really that far. Its only 60 paces. Getting paint to follow the same trajectory is actually quite easy. All you need is consistency. That includes the marker, air supply, barrel, paint. Then, all it comes down to is your own ability to judge distance. That just takes a lot of practice.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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