Need some hopper advice... Or at least some sharing of experiences.

[CatoRockwell]

good thing I waited to get the rotor maybe they'll lower the price to be competitive or release something new

[BiNumber3]

Hmm, I've been using a Spyder Fasta since it came out and I was able to get a used one of pbnation:P

Ive been considering getting a 9v version though, cuz frankly, I don't really "need" the power.
Haven't tried any fancy schmancy new loaders, cuz really, do we need it?
Fasta is nice n simple, design came from the Apache right? and isn't the pinokio the same thing but with a new and improved shell?

I prefer the tab activation because a ball really can't not activate it (and unlike revvies and similar, if you run out of paint, it wont start running till you turn it off), and find it hard to imagine how one would damage the sensor under normal use.

Havent broken paint in it yet either, and i've used year n a half cheapo paint in it

but maybe it's just my mindset, I have something that does what it needs to do without doing it in excess, kind of like my mags

[cockerpunk]

To further throw a wrench into the works, I just got an e-mail from Empire. The Prophecy has been repriced. New MAP/MSRP is $99.95. Kind of changes the whole hopper shopping game, doesn't it?

at this price, you can't even make an argument for the rotor against the proph.

for 100 bucks, the proph is without a doubt the best hopper made currently, period.

[d4m4don3]

The price drops probably because of stagnant sales of the prophecy. Most of the local shops don't carry much stock of the velocity since the rotor came out. The prophecy has pretty much been sitting on store shelves around here. The rotor's been flying off the shelves the past year.
But for 100 bucks thats pretty hard to argue. Maybe this is the magic price point?

[zondo]

at this price, you can't even make an argument for the rotor against the proph.

for 100 bucks, the proph is without a doubt the best hopper made currently, period.

If I hadn't already picked up a Rotor, I would probably have gone this route. Ah well... still only spent $100 on mine

[Shirow]

If I hadn't already picked up a Rotor, I would probably have gone this route. Ah well... still only spent $100 on mine

I'll definitely be getting a Prophecy now, it's not even a contest at $100 in my eyes.

[Shirow]

So, I'm about to pull the trigger on this - is there any reason anyone sees that I should get a Pinokio over the Prophecy?

Prophecy looks better all around to me but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Since they can both be had for right around $100, I think the Rotor is out of the question now, unless someone knows a place selling Rotors for $100.

[cockerpunk]

The price drops probably because of stagnant sales of the prophecy. Most of the local shops don't carry much stock of the velocity since the rotor came out. The prophecy has pretty much been sitting on store shelves around here. The rotor's been flying off the shelves the past year.
But for 100 bucks thats pretty hard to argue. Maybe this is the magic price point?

and i can't figure out why.

frankly, the rotor is a joke. its slow and heavy and low capacity compared to proph, and its harder on paint.

[Shirow]

Either way I figure I may as well wait until black Friday, see if there are any even better deals.. I'm not desperate for it since snow is coming anyway.

[Frizzle Fry]

So, I'm about to pull the trigger on this - is there any reason anyone sees that I should get a Pinokio over the Prophecy?

Prophecy looks better all around to me but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Since they can both be had for right around $100.

Where can I get a Pinokio for around $100? The main reason I ruled it out was the $150+ price tag.

and i can't figure out why.

frankly, the rotor is a joke. its slow and heavy and low capacity compared to proph, and its harder on paint.

Nuhuh! The technology of the Rotor could feed at 52 bps.

Of course that's provided that you (at least) quintupled its capacity and were using a marker that could cycle properly at that speed... And even then that would rely on your marker being fired consistently at a high enough speed non-stop for long enough so the hopper could build up to that speed...

Also, it looks like part of a muppet.

[Shirow]

PBgear.com has Pinokio's for $114.95, I've seen them go on Ebay for $100-120ish.

[Frizzle Fry]

PBgear.com has Pinokio's for $114.95, I've seen them go on Ebay for $100-120ish.

Damn... From a list of 4 hoppers down to 1 that wasn't on the list, then up to 2, and now it's a list of 3 and 2 were on the original list


I guess it's Pinokio $115, Prophecy $100, or Invert Too $70...

[cockerpunk]

Nuhuh! The technology of the Rotor could feed at 52 bps.

Of course that's provided that you (at least) quintupled its capacity and were using a marker that could cycle properly at that speed... And even then that would rely on your marker being fired consistently at a high enough speed non-stop for long enough so the hopper could build up to that speed...

Also, it looks like part of a muppet.

ive never seen the rotor do faster the 14-15 on gun.

for 150 bucks, thats just not acceptable.

ill give you that you never really need that kind of performance, but in the price range it is located in, it doesn't matter. it should give you a bj for 150 bucks.

[MANN]

frankly, the rotor is a joke. its slow and heavy and low capacity compared to proph, and its harder on paint.

I disagree completely. I own both, and last weekend my prophecy was a blender. I removed 3 magnets, and it still blended paint. My wifes rotor worked great the whole day. Both of us were using the same paint out of the same box.

[Frizzle Fry]

ive never seen the rotor do faster the 14-15 on gun.

for 150 bucks, thats just not acceptable.

ill give you that you never really need that kind of performance, but in the price range it is located in, it doesn't matter. it should give you a bj for 150 bucks.

I agree completely.

I was being sarcastic; when they first came out there were "52 BPS OMGZ" plastered all over the place and nobody seemed to realize that (a) it was a drop rate that no marker could feasibly keep up with and (b) it would take something like 1000 rounds to even "warm up" to feeding at that speed.

For $150 you should get half and half