Need some hopper advice... Or at least some sharing of experiences.

[SSP REAPER]

I agree completely.

I was being sarcastic; when they first came out there were "52 BPS OMGZ" plastered all over the place and nobody seemed to realize that (a) it was a drop rate that no marker could feasibly keep up with and (b) it would take something like 1000 rounds to even "warm up" to feeding at that speed.

For $150 you should get half and half

Andrew,
Whatever you decide on, let me know. I will help you out

[Shirow]

Damn... From a list of 4 hoppers down to 1 that wasn't on the list, then up to 2, and now it's a list of 3 and 2 were on the original list


I guess it's Pinokio $115, Prophecy $100, or Invert Too $70...

I'm in the same boat, although I think I've scratched the Halo Too off my list at this point. Honestly, I'm not in a rush and I think I'll just wait until I see either a Prophecy or a Pinokio at a really good price. I still kinda like the nose on the Pinokio but I just don't know if I'd be willing to use it after feeling the weight. Seems like the Prophecy is the better call overall.

[Frizzle Fry]

Andrew,
Whatever you decide on, let me know. I will help you out

I'm starting to lean towards the Pinokio again

I probably won't be buying for a couple weeks now but I'll definately shoot you a PM, thanks!

[Shirow]

I'm starting to lean towards the Pinokio again

I probably won't be buying for a couple weeks now but I'll definately shoot you a PM, thanks!

Really, why? I think we're both having exactly the same problem here but I'm tending towards the Prophecy right now. Just curious as to your viewpoints.

[Frizzle Fry]

Really, why? I think we're both having exactly the same problem here but I'm tending towards the Prophecy right now. Just curious as to your viewpoints.

I often use a warp on my Xmag and it's got a 16" barrel... I've played with and enjoyed the Pinokio, and I have this image of me on a field with a 400rd Pinokio and very few pods of paint. I'm not a big electro player, and when I do play with my Xmag or Microemag I use a lot of paint.

[Shirow]

I often use a warp on my Xmag and it's got a 16" barrel... I've played with and enjoyed the Pinokio, and I have this image of me on a field with a 400rd Pinokio and very few pods of paint. I'm not a big electro player, and when I do play with my Xmag or Microemag I use a lot of paint.

Yeah, the 400rd thing is what tempts me too. I don't have an electro but not carrying pods would be nice sometimes. Whether I want to haul 400rds on top of my gun is another question.

[fishmishin]

The only problem I have had with my pinokio is that I didn't pull my batteries out, and something in my gear bag hit the button and my batteries died. It's easy enough to pull the batteries out though since you don't have to remove a screw to open the battery compartment. Other than that I have played with it in semi cold weather were rotors were eating paint, and I had no problems with it at all, and it kept up with my E-mag fine in hybrid mode.

[Shirow]

The only problem I have had with my pinokio is that I didn't pull my batteries out, and something in my gear bag hit the button and my batteries died. It's easy enough to pull the batteries out though since you don't have to remove a screw to open the battery compartment. Other than that I have played with it in semi cold weather were rotors were eating paint, and I had no problems with it at all, and it kept up with my E-mag fine in hybrid mode.

How long have you had it? Are you happy with it otherwise?

[fishmishin]

I have had it for about 4 months, and I love it. I haven't had any other problems with it at all. It always keeps up, I haven't had any problems with jams, and the shell seems to be holding up fine so far, and I'm not easy on my gear by any means. I was using a VLocity Jr before, and I like the Pinokio a lot better. Plus the extra capacity is great, 250 w/o the nose, and 400 with the nose. The extra weight doesn't really bother me at all, I like be at a big game and not having to dump a pod when everyone else is. The price is a little easier than the rotor, not by much though. I am kinda thinking of doing a pre-order for some Pinokio's here soon so if anybody is let me know. That would help me gauge interest.

[UberWigget]

I've owned both the Prophecy and the Rotor and I will say that I like them both about equally. When I traded my Prophecy for a rotor my only complaint was the weight difference. The rotor was significantly heavier.

But in the long run i believe the rotor is better because of its insane durability. I just have yet to use another hopper that is built as beastly as it is.

I will just keep it as simple as this. If you're stuck between a Rotor and Prophecy I believe it comes down to a few things. Do you want a very light hopper that takes some effort to take apart and clean, or do you want a pretty heavy hopper that is incredibly easy to completely breakdown and user friendly in general.

As for pinokios and vlocitys, I would only think about getting one if you found a great deal used. Imo pinkoios are ugly and gears are loud every time it feeds. And the vlocitys shells are just too weak and are loud as well.

[Shirow]

I have had it for about 4 months, and I love it. I haven't had any other problems with it at all. It always keeps up, I haven't had any problems with jams, and the shell seems to be holding up fine so far, and I'm not easy on my gear by any means. I was using a VLocity Jr before, and I like the Pinokio a lot better. Plus the extra capacity is great, 250 w/o the nose, and 400 with the nose. The extra weight doesn't really bother me at all, I like be at a big game and not having to dump a pod when everyone else is. The price is a little easier than the rotor, not by much though. I am kinda thinking of doing a pre-order for some Pinokio's here soon so if anybody is let me know. That would help me gauge interest.

Well, let me know what price you could do, if you can beat the 114.95 at pbgear.com I'd be interested.

[Shirow]

I've owned both the Prophecy and the Rotor and I will say that I like them both about equally. When I traded my Prophecy for a rotor my only complaint was the weight difference. The rotor was significantly heavier.

But in the long run i believe the rotor is better because of its insane durability. I just have yet to use another hopper that is built as beastly as it is.

I will just keep it as simple as this. If you're stuck between a Rotor and Prophecy I believe it comes down to a few things. Do you want a very light hopper that takes some effort to take apart and clean, or do you want a pretty heavy hopper that is incredibly easy to completely breakdown and user friendly in general.

As for pinokios and vlocitys, I would only think about getting one if you found a great deal used. Imo pinkoios are ugly and gears are loud every time it feeds. And the vlocitys shells are just too weak and are loud as well.

It's really Prophecy vs Pinokio for me, they're both somewhat available around $100 right now. $150 is too much for me.

[Shirow]

Don't know if this will apply to Prophecy or not, I'm keeping an eye out but starting on Nov 26th, discountpaintball.com has 10% off empire/invert/BT gear with a coupon.

http://www.discountpaintball.com/Save-10-on-BT-Empire-and-Invert-Paintball-Products_df_37.html

If this applies to the Prophecy, it will take it down to $90... fingers crossed!

[d4m4don3]

and i can't figure out why.

frankly, the rotor is a joke. its slow and heavy and low capacity compared to proph, and its harder on paint.

It's easier to demonstrate how to clean in the stores. You can break the rotor down much faster than the prophecy. Customers are impressed. Its the wow factor for those who don't spend time on the internet to do a little research.

The prophecy is simple, but not as simple as the rotor.

[Shirow]

Looks like the code works for $10 off, it's '10percentoff'

Prophecy for $89.95....

I'm tempted but still not sure...