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  • smeek
    Registered User
    • Oct 2009
    • 106

    #16
    I agree with cockerpunk, reballs don't feed well. I think a prophecy is still going to be a bottle neck with dirty reballs, they just like to jam in whatever loader you're using. I haven't played with reballs in a long time, but my Halos never did like them, I'd always end up using a revy. Although the place I went to never cleaned them either.

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    • Ando
      Magusmaximus
      • Jun 2009
      • 4144

      #17
      Originally posted by smeek
      I agree with cockerpunk, reballs don't feed well. I think a prophecy is still going to be a bottle neck with dirty reballs, they just like to jam in whatever loader you're using. I haven't played with reballs in a long time, but my Halos never did like them, I'd always end up using a revy. Although the place I went to never cleaned them either.
      /QFT...

      ...on the Revy. Once you get the bag or what ever they give you as a container for the balls. Bring some paint with you and bust 2 or 3 balls in the container and mix it. Coating the balls will lube and keep them from sticking on the inside your prophecy and should help with jams. If all else fails get old school on their A double S's with a Revy.
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      • fishmishin
        Registered User
        • Dec 2008
        • 1285

        #18
        My pinokio will feed reballs consistently at 25bps, but it has the P-board upgrade on it also.
        This was tested at the local indoor reball facility by a buddy of mine running his 07 EGO, I wasn't present though I just let him borrow it to try it out.

        Sorry I know its a bit off topic, I just figured it might help out some with using reballs !
        http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...ishin+feedback

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        • p8ntballin007
          Professional Forum Lurker
          • Sep 2003
          • 133

          #19
          Whatever happened to that video that Z-Man made about 6-8 years ago. He hooked his rt pro directly to a scuba tank puting out around 3000psi. It was around when I stoped playing paintball so I never got to hear the final BPS count. Rumor was that it was around 50 bps, but the audio clip was fuzzy or something and couldn't be properly analyzed.
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          • kcombs9
            Registered User
            • Sep 2006
            • 908

            #20
            Always clean your balls...

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            • FA22RaptorF22
              AO-CT
              • Nov 2006
              • 593

              #21
              Originally posted by p8ntballin007
              Whatever happened to that video that Z-Man made about 6-8 years ago. He hooked his rt pro directly to a scuba tank puting out around 3000psi. It was around when I stoped playing paintball so I never got to hear the final BPS count. Rumor was that it was around 50 bps, but the audio clip was fuzzy or something and couldn't be properly analyzed.
              You mean 34.5 bps?

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              • p8ntballin007
                Professional Forum Lurker
                • Sep 2003
                • 133

                #22
                Originally posted by FA22RaptorF22
                Good Find. I saw that page when I was looking for it, but didn't notice that it was actually on there. I'm glad that they actually were able to get a good audio analysis on it.
                Last edited by p8ntballin007; 02-16-2010, 09:19 AM.
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                • om3n
                  pm's more than posts
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 438

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ando
                  /QFT...

                  ...on the Revy. Once you get the bag or what ever they give you as a container for the balls. Bring some paint with you and bust 2 or 3 balls in the container and mix it. Coating the balls will lube and keep them from sticking on the inside your prophecy and should help with jams. If all else fails get old school on their A double S's with a Revy.
                  Really? With paint?

                  Cleaning out the prophesy afterward will sure be fun. I've never broken a ball in the prophesy before but I have taken it apart... and man does it suck to put back together. You have to get the shells aligned JUST right...

                  I have some crappy reballs at my house right now, rufus dog brand, and they really suck. I just use them for testing usually. They seem quite small compared to normal paint (they are about .670 generally) and they do jam quite often in the prophesy. I clean them but have never lubed them- so is that the reason they keep jamming? I am still hoping that whatever brand of re-balls they use at that field will be larger than my tac-balls.

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                  • Drix
                    New Hampshire Indoor PB
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 552

                    #24
                    It's rather important to find out what kind of reballs your field is using. Real reballs you're usually going to be ok, I would reccomend slipping some sleek into your feedneck and hopper tray to speed the balls along, breaking a paintball or two in there sounds sketchy. Real reballs work on most hoppers pretty well, I'd keep away from the rotor however. If you're using mighty balls you're going to experience more issues as they're softer and squish up. The best hopper for mighty balls is an eggy, you can do the same sleek lube trick if you want.

                    Most reball fields are 220, so you're going to want that lighter spring. And if you're emag is not center feed you might want to consider leaving it at home, those powerfeeds don't like reballs or mightyballs.

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                    • om3n
                      pm's more than posts
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 438

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Drix
                      It's rather important to find out what kind of reballs your field is using. Real reballs you're usually going to be ok, I would reccomend slipping some sleek into your feedneck and hopper tray to speed the balls along, breaking a paintball or two in there sounds sketchy. Real reballs work on most hoppers pretty well, I'd keep away from the rotor however. If you're using mighty balls you're going to experience more issues as they're softer and squish up. The best hopper for mighty balls is an eggy, you can do the same sleek lube trick if you want.

                      Most reball fields are 220, so you're going to want that lighter spring. And if you're emag is not center feed you might want to consider leaving it at home, those powerfeeds don't like reballs or mightyballs.

                      Nope it's a center feed body. I will call later today to find out what sort of reballs they are, but what else would you guys suggest to lube the balls instead of sleek, because I don't have any? I have lots of gold cup, and the only other rubber-safe lube I have is some water proof silicon grease I use for my air-cannon

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                      • Ando
                        Magusmaximus
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4144

                        #26
                        I DO THIS ALL THE TIME....there's nothing "sketchy" about it

                        All your doing is lubing them so they glide off the walls of your feedneck and hopper internals. Reason you get jams is the balls stick to everything, including themselves. You can use your expensive oil if you like but it's going to be the same same.

                        As a mater of fact most of the manufactures tell you to lube them before using.

                        The balls will only have a lite film. They're not going to be all gooey and dripping with paint. If they are, put them in a towel and lightly roll them but you want a nice shine. Try it out on those reballs you have at your house, you said they jam all the time right? Bust a ball in the mix and try it again. Only thing I've seen this not work on are Q-Pod's (reballs don't work with them at all). Everything else I've tried besides a rotor has worked like a champ and there's no mess to clean. You'll have a film in the hopper but it's nothing you need to worry about. You can go right ahead and toss "real balls" in with no ill effects.

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                        Last edited by Ando; 02-16-2010, 02:57 PM.
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                        • om3n
                          pm's more than posts
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 438

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ando
                          I DO THIS ALL THE TIME....there's nothing "sketchy" about it

                          All your doing is lubing them so they glide off the walls of your feedneck and hopper internals. Reason you get jams is the balls stick to everything, including themselves. You can use your expensive oil if you like but it's going to be the same same.

                          As a mater of fact most of the manufactures tell you to lube them before using.

                          The balls will only have a lite film. They're not going to be all gooey and dripping with paint. If they are, put them in a towel and lightly roll them but you want a nice shine. Try it out on those reballs you have at your house, you said they jam all the time right? Bust a ball in the mix and try it again. Only thing I've seen this not work on are Q-Pod's (reballs don't work with them at all). Everything else I've tried besides a rotor has worked like a champ and there's no mess to clean. You'll have a film in the hopper but it's nothing you need to worry about. You can go right ahead and toss "real balls" in with no ill effects.

                          EDIT: PB Nation is good for something.
                          A forum community dedicated to paintball gun owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about optics, builds, gear, events, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more!


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                          alright I'll try using paint later tonight when I take a break from homework! It just seems a bit odd honestly, but it's probably cheaper than the other options so why not :)

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                          • om3n
                            pm's more than posts
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 438

                            #28
                            Originally posted by om3n
                            alright I'll try using paint later tonight when I take a break from homework! It just seems a bit odd honestly, but it's probably cheaper than the other options so why not :)


                            So with the dwell at 18 and the fix at 5, I could get the gun to cycle effortlessly at 25 cps, plenty fast for me. When I put paint through it though, it chopped 2x on about 50 balls. I think I need to re-tune the lvl 10 for this ROF

                            then I tried my ruballs after I cleaned and lubed a pod of them with some paint, and at 25 bps it would shoot for about 1 second before it would jam, but I could tell the lvl 10 was tripping up alot. If I just stopped shooting for a moment, it would shoot at 25 bps for another half second before it would jam up again. I'll bet at a slower rof it wouldn't jam... but I want to be able to shoot reballs really fast!!

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                            • Drix
                              New Hampshire Indoor PB
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 552

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ando
                              I DO THIS ALL THE TIME....there's nothing "sketchy" about it

                              All your doing is lubing them so they glide off the walls of your feedneck and hopper internals. Reason you get jams is the balls stick to everything, including themselves. You can use your expensive oil if you like but it's going to be the same same.

                              As a mater of fact most of the manufactures tell you to lube them before using.

                              The balls will only have a lite film. They're not going to be all gooey and dripping with paint. If they are, put them in a towel and lightly roll them but you want a nice shine. Try it out on those reballs you have at your house, you said they jam all the time right? Bust a ball in the mix and try it again. Only thing I've seen this not work on are Q-Pod's (reballs don't work with them at all). Everything else I've tried besides a rotor has worked like a champ and there's no mess to clean. You'll have a film in the hopper but it's nothing you need to worry about. You can go right ahead and toss "real balls" in with no ill effects.
                              We used to lube them as the manufacturer states at our field. What ended up happening is the little bit of lube would be injected into the ball by the force of the air being used to propel it. We swelled a stack of balls up to about .80+ before we figured out what was going on, they were so tight that they would not shoot down alot of barrels. We've found swelling the track and not the balls is a better alternative.

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                              • athomas
                                Of course it works-its AGD
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 8039

                                #30
                                Drop the dwell to 15.
                                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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