The Age of the Mechanical Marker

[BlackOps]

indeed, speedball is a far cleaner sport then woodsball ever could be. it is just to easy to cheat in the woods.

I think you perhaps misunderstood me. It has been my experience that the young uber competitive players in speedball had little to no integrity and I had hoped that it hadn't permeated onto the woodsball field, but it has.

[M98Punk]

currently I am working on building two more Mechanical markers (microMags Natc) so I think all is alive in well.

I'm just waiting to get my Q-pods back (don't leave them winded for 5 years in a box) so I can dip my whole gun in water then rip it at 20+ bps

[cockerpunk]

I think you perhaps misunderstood me. It has been my experience that the young uber competitive players in speedball had little to no integrity and I had hoped that it hadn't permeated onto the woodsball field, but it has.

those are the same kids who play in the woods ... and its nearly impossible to police anything in the woods.

[athomas]

This lack of honor hasn't just happened in the last few years. It was there long before speedball was even around. I remember playing against guys back in 1990 that played that way. There are just larger numbers of people playing now, so more people notice it.

On topic:

I had a great day of paintball this past weekend. I played in "Warriors in the Woods" scenario game with 300 people (150 aside). We had generals and squad leaders and several objectives. Had a blast crawling through the woods with my retro mag.

[Aslan]

on second thought

I will say that this weekend, I was able to hold my own quite well with my Retro Valved Minimag versus X7s and E-triggered A5s. So maybe this mechanical age ain't quite dead yet.

[longi]

I've always found the Retro valve to be an equal match for any electro out there. It fires at the same speed, so why wouldn't it be?

[Loneassassin]

those are the same kids who play in the woods ... and its nearly impossible to police anything in the woods.

At least where I play woodsball, there is still a sense of honor upheld. Cheaters are simply not tolerated. Over the last 8 years or so, I've only encountered it a handful of times in woodsball.

One thing I will say is that if I discover that a player is wiping in woodsball, I have always been able to deliver justice to them in that game, and if not then, the next game. I never forget someone who wipes, and once they are "marked" in my mind, they no longer recieve a courtesy 1-2 balls for an elimination. They get shot until their hand goes up - period.

This has not been the case in speedball, where cheaters are often decently skilled. It becomes a lot harder to solve the problem - plus with all the chaos in a speedball game, you're likely to get shot before you can do anything about that player. I've played speedball with people who wiped 5+ shots. What can you do?

[BlackOps]

One thing I will say is that if I discover that a player is wiping in woodsball, I have always been able to deliver justice to them in that game, and if not then, the next game. I never forget someone who wipes, and once they are "marked" in my mind, they no longer recieve a courtesy 1-2 balls for an elimination. They get shot until their hand goes up - period.

Which was exactly the motive behind my post about switching from mech to electronic. I want those players to beg me to let them out of the game.

[M98Punk]

Which was exactly the motive behind my post about switching from mech to electronic. I want those players to beg me to let them out of the game.

Bah you can do the same thing with a mech.... I don't see how having another 9volt is gonna make someone beg

[Phantom_Mag]

In a competitive environment, mechanical markers are not relevant and essentially a waste of time, unless it is a mechanical and pump only tournament (obviously).

I hope you were kidding. You must have been.

[athomas]

An electronic marker can give confidence to a poor player, but they will still be a poor player. A good player can use any type of marker and make it work for them. That is why they are a good player. If you need an electronic marker to make you better, then you actually need practice, not a new marker.

[Hobbez]

Let 'em know your there, let em shoot a hopper at you, wait for the reload, and pow. You shot 300, I shot 3 and my mech just got your electro out.

[paintmann111]

If anyone is going to ION at skirmish they will find out. I will have my Classic RT mag with warpfeed and dynaflow tank ready to rip @1100psi. Only problem is running out of air. I figure a 113ci 3000psi I should be able to mange a couple of hoppers. I guess i should bust out the 114ci 4500 psi raptor as well.

[maglover666]

nah, as long as guys want to tinker with guns there will always be some fancy hot shot mech that can easily keep up with the e-guns. Look at all the pneumags out there these days. And I've never seen an RT actually rip in person before, but everything I hear about them makes me think they will hold off any electro

ive never seen an electro shoot faster then an rt so technically mechs are faster then electro's

[CatoRockwell]

ive never seen an electro shoot faster then an rt so technically mechs are faster then electro's

Well i recall watching a video on youtube totest the speed of a qloader where an rt mag at like 2000psi input was rocking 31bps, but an aka viking was shooting 34bps so i think there are electros that can shoot faster. Not that you would ever need to shoot that fast.