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  • ProblemKinder
    Colossians 3:8
    • Aug 2006
    • 861

    #1

    invert mini

    What do you guys know about the invert mini? How much like the emag is it? Just appearance or is it similar in other ways? I saw one at my local store which was wierd cuz all they have pretty much is tippmanns.
  • BigEvil
    www.BigEvilOnline.com

    • Feb 2005
    • 9333

    #2
    -Uber small and light
    -Fast as hell
    -Average consistency
    -Not very user friendly at times
    -Can be problematic
    -Hall effect trigger switch
    -Battery and board in teh front grip
    -cocker threaded barrels, although not all will fit

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    • Frizzle Fry
      AO Micromag Guy
      • Mar 2009
      • 3280

      #3
      Originally posted by BigEvil
      Hit the nail on the head...

      Gen2 (4-hole ASA is the easiest way to identify it) has less problems and is a bit more user- and barrel-friendly than Gen1 (2-hole ASA).

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      • StygShore
        Waterford, MI

        • Aug 2002
        • 2854

        #4
        My completely biased opinion...

        86000 shots through my first one, and the Jack Mini is working on close to about 40k after the winter sessions and still going strong. I get about 1000 shots on a full 48/4500 fill. Consistency is about +/- 5 once the reg is broke in. ( had +/- 1 this weekend on mine )

        I think any cocker threaded barrel fits now, the originals Mini's had too tight of ID on their bodies, so some older smart parts barrels didn't fit them.

        V2 and V3 have fixed most issues users were having by replacing poppets, replacing the main board, fixed the hall sensor magnet so it cant pop off the screw if over adjusted, and the detent length was changed to work better.

        As far as user friendly... its only got like 5 internal parts including the velocity adjusting screw. 9 times out of 10 its an o-ring causing your problems - the 10th time it's your solenoid which is rebuildable. Hoseless design means no more worn out fittings or blown macro line.

        Main weak point for me is the trigger geometry is a little off so the stock trigger especially can be mushy feeling - I have found adding a magnet from the prophecy or magna kit to the frame makes any trigger I put on much more responsive.

        Styg

        Similarity to the Emag?
        Battery in front grip ( 9Volt, not 1 lb brick of cells )
        Hall Effect Sensor ( different placement, but its still a Hall sensor )
        Bolt and Spring look similarish...
        Single tube design
        Last edited by StygShore; 03-22-2010, 01:21 PM.
        Sometimes It's Good to be EVIL

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        • punkncat
          One foot less
          • Feb 2003
          • 5841

          #5
          I have owned several, and just ordered another one, new. Great little shooters.

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          • tribalman
            Registered User
            • Dec 2002
            • 719

            #6
            Originally posted by punkncat
            I have owned several, and just ordered another one, new. Great little shooters.
            reg carefully. my friends mini was running at ~200 psi which is what the manual says, and it blew out the bottom of the noid. still trying to fix it without having to buy a new one.
            e-mag 226
            flashed with 1.31

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            • MANN
              I am in TN. GO VOLS.
              • Apr 2006
              • 4266

              #7
              I have one that I purchased new when they came out. It has worked fine for my wife. I have never touched anything on it. Their only downside is that they are too small for my hands.

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              • Frizzle Fry
                AO Micromag Guy
                • Mar 2009
                • 3280

                #8
                Originally posted by tribalman
                reg carefully. my friends mini was running at ~200 psi which is what the manual says, and it blew out the bottom of the noid. still trying to fix it without having to buy a new one.
                Had that problem with the Gen1... Us AS guys shot them when they'd just came out, and we switched to Protos because of it.

                Gen2/3 shouldn't be an issue.

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                • splat15k
                  The Beast from the East

                  • Oct 2001
                  • 1227

                  #9
                  I love my mini because it's light, small, easy to maintain, and feels very smooth with a CP sling trigger (spring return instead of magnet). I hold it to be one of the greatest bargains in paintball.
                  My AO Feedback

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                  • georgeyew
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 704

                    #10
                    I enjoy mine as well. It has become one of my primary electro marker along side my Tac1. The only problem that I've had with it was the the slight leaking down the barrel. But I seem to have found a solution by using Dow33 on the poppet oring (I use Slick Honey on the rest of the marker). It has been very dependable. I like it so much that I am considering stocking up on them when I find cheap ones, but I don't know when I will ever get to use the back up ones since my main one is so dependable. The others are right, for the money it is an awesome little marker.

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                    • fishmishin
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1285

                      #11
                      Everybody has made really good points on the mini here. There isn't much more I can tell you other than I have sold about 30 of them in the last 4 1/2 months and I have only had one come back. That was for a broken lower transfer tube, and Kee sent me the parts to fix it for free for the customer no questions asked. They are good little shooters for the price. If your really interested in a new one hit me up and I'll make you a heck of a deal on one.
                      http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...ishin+feedback

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                      • ProblemKinder
                        Colossians 3:8
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 861

                        #12
                        how unique is the design? is it similar to the angel? I keep hearing about poppets.

                        I feel like I'm being annoying because I have no intention of ever buying one but I was intrigued by the marker. It's so stinking small!! and of course it looks alot like an Emag.

                        it also stood out as being almost the only non-tippmann marker there. I think I saw a proto too. Overall not impressed with the store. (not that I need a local store, I can get everything I need right here on AO) but I do miss the old shop who's owner was a mag user and could work on my mag and actually hold an intellegent conversation about them.

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                        • CatoRockwell
                          Woodsballer
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 704

                          #13
                          Never used one personally, but a few of our local players have, they tend to prefer the G3. Either way, both seem problematic. It's not good when you need to replace several stock parts. Thats why I love my mag.

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                          • ProblemKinder
                            Colossians 3:8
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 861

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CatoRockwell
                            Never used one personally, but a few of our local players have, they tend to prefer the G3. Either way, both seem problematic. It's not good when you need to replace several stock parts. Thats why I love my mag.


                            that's why I love all 4 of my mags

                            and that's why I'm less than impressed with my tippmann

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                            • pump
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 750

                              #15
                              its the lowest kick, quietest, shortest shot i ever heard or felt

                              but this is with a NDZ bolt and spring, and cocker like thought in tuning


                              once i can get an extended foregrip designed i will buy one


                              honestly the mini should of been a dual noid closed bolt gun

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