***Official price for the ShoeBox compressor will be 390 dollars***

[Beemer]

TK what is the maintenance expectation for the shoebox? how often will it need breakdown and under what conditions? Also I hope someone creates a tutorial thread for said maintenance.

That is really the only factor I am worried about

other than that fantastic job on the price way cheaper than I expected, cant wait to get mine

There are only six orings. Three in each cylinder. Unscrew one nut and a fitting, remove one c-clip. Its so simple a cave man could do it. Even I can do it. The Thread is already in the works.

Patience, perfection isnt fast.

[Beemer]

I ended up picking one up at LL3

Since I flew I took it to Fed ex and swaddled it like a baby and bubble wrap and then packed it up tight and sent it ground to my house.


Swamp

Let us know how the shipping goes. We want to ship with out the bleed pin in for fear of getting bent.

[Beemer]

and everyone buying a compressor be sure to go pick up a spray can of white lithium grease. That is the recommended lube.

Doh spray is messy. Get a can and use a Q-tip to apply. Its like BrillCream a little dab will do ya between fills. The spray has carriers ya dont need.

[joeyt]

I am talking to Ninja about having the proper hose.

I will let everyone know a cost once it is available.

any word from ninja yet?

[Jacobd]

and everyone buying a compressor be sure to go pick up a spray can of white lithium grease. That is the recommended lube.

AH ha! I was wondering about lubrication requirements, is there any way the grease would get into the tank? and create a potential safety hazard if you (or someone) went to flash-fill the tank later?

[Tunaman]

AH ha! I was wondering about lubrication requirements, is there any way the grease would get into the tank? and create a potential safety hazard if you (or someone) went to flash-fill the tank later?

TK says not to worry. Only a smidgeon of lube is needed on the shafts. A small filter would do the trick. I may supply one with the hose kits.

[BenoitOWN]

any word from ninja yet?

They told me last week to let them 1-2 week before they finds the best option.

[joeyt]

They told me last week to let them 1-2 week before they finds the best option.

thank you.

[JKR]

TK says not to worry. Only a smidgeon of lube is needed on the shafts. A small filter would do the trick. I may supply one with the hose kits.

Definitely would be great if you supplied a filter with the hose kits. Keep us posted.

[nerobro]

now, where are we worried "stuff" will come from? (concerning the filter thing...) You have a storage tank after the main compressor. My compressor has a filter on the intake, to stop sand, bugs, and small children.

Then the compressor itself only runs for .. oh.. 2 minutes each hour. Giving lots of time for dust to settle, water mist to settle out. And since the shoebox draws very little air, it's not like there's a big rush of air to suck foreign matter out of the main storage tank.

... Yes, I'm making an argument that filters aren't a huge concern. :-) Well "I" am not concerned yet. I've had three fill nipple failures though. However that's due to some other issues. Namely ten year old o-rings.

As for the stuff on the output side... If anything serious were coming out that side, I'd be worried about the health of my shoebox. I know at least some of my regs dump their input air directly into the tank, instead of at the reg seat.

[Beemer]

Well we know some water getting into the ShoeBox aint an issue for it cause its been done in testing.

[JKR]

now, where are we worried "stuff" will come from? (concerning the filter thing...) You have a storage tank after the main compressor. My compressor has a filter on the intake, to stop sand, bugs, and small children.

Then the compressor itself only runs for .. oh.. 2 minutes each hour. Giving lots of time for dust to settle, water mist to settle out. And since the shoebox draws very little air, it's not like there's a big rush of air to suck foreign matter out of the main storage tank.

... Yes, I'm making an argument that filters aren't a huge concern. :-) Well "I" am not concerned yet. I've had three fill nipple failures though. However that's due to some other issues. Namely ten year old o-rings.

As for the stuff on the output side... If anything serious were coming out that side, I'd be worried about the health of my shoebox. I know at least some of my regs dump their input air directly into the tank, instead of at the reg seat.

I am filtering the input to the Shoebox (when I get one) to minimize the chances of any moisture making it to my tank. It may not harm the Shoebox or be an issue with it's operation, but I don't want increasing amounts of condensation making it to my tank. If any condensation makes it to the tank, it will accumulate as time passes and I personally don't want water sloshing around in my tank and the rust that could happen to the reg springs, etc. They wouldn't make moisture trap filters if compressors didn't put out some water from the main tank in operation. There will be some amount of moisture, albeit a small amount, that comes from the shop compressor. The particulate filtration is just another layer of protection. Sure, the shop compressor may have a crude filter to keep out big stuff, but I like the idea of filtering down even smaller particals after the air leaves the compressor heading to the Shoebox.

Now the filter that Tunaman is talking about is something different altogether. He is going to supply the hoses on the output of the Shoebox. The filter he is thinking of including is for the output of the Shoebox. I take it that this filter (a high pressure 4500 psi model) is there to address the concerns of the Shoebox oring/seal lubrication making it's way into your tank. As we all know, any amount of oil/grease inside your tank is a very bad thing!

[Swamp Thing]

Looks Good

Got my compressor from Fed Ex. Looks to be in great shape. Waiting on a solution for the fill hose/filter options before I will be able to test it.

Swamp

[kd4arf]

I am filtering the input to the Shoebox (when I get one) to minimize the chances of any moisture making it to my tank. It may not harm the Shoebox or be an issue with it's operation, but I don't want increasing amounts of condensation making it to my tank. If any condensation makes it to the tank, it will accumulate as time passes and I personally don't want water sloshing around in my tank and the rust that could happen to the reg springs, etc. They wouldn't make moisture trap filters if compressors didn't put out some water from the main tank in operation. There will be some amount of moisture, albeit a small amount, that comes from the shop compressor. The particulate filtration is just another layer of protection. Sure, the shop compressor may have a crude filter to keep out big stuff, but I like the idea of filtering down even smaller particals after the air leaves the compressor heading to the Shoebox.

Now the filter that Tunaman is talking about is something different altogether. He is going to supply the hoses on the output of the Shoebox. The filter he is thinking of including is for the output of the Shoebox. I take it that this filter (a high pressure 4500 psi model) is there to address the concerns of the Shoebox oring/seal lubrication making it's way into your tank. As we all know, any amount of oil/grease inside your tank is a very bad thing!

I too have been looking very closely at a filter for the input to the shoebox that will both eliminate water, oil and any particulate matter.

The best looking/working filter for a low price, and with a good rep, is the Beach F-GGC filter. They run about $57-60 and will filter down to .3 micron and are good for about 300,000 CF of air. Now I imagine that the dryer the air going into the unit the longer it will last. I look at it as a lifetime filter as I will be keeping a 75 CF tank at 4500psi and doubt I will use more than 3-4 hundred CF of air a year for my PCP Guns.

Anyway the PDF file attached and has all the info on the filter.

Steve

[kd4arf]

I too have been looking very closely at a filter for the input to the shoebox that will both eliminate water, oil and any particulate matter.

The best looking/working filter for a low price, and with a good rep, is the Beach F-GGC filter. They run about $57-60 and will filter down to .3 micron and are good for about 300,000 CF of air. Now I imagine that the dryer the air going into the unit the longer it will last. I look at it as a lifetime filter as I will be keeping a 75 CF tank at 4500psi and doubt I will use more than 3-4 hundred CF of air a year for my PCP Guns.

Anyway the PDF file attached and has all the info on the filter.

Steve

I thought I had attached a file...but I guess it didn't work. If anyone would like a copy of the specs e-mail me at kd4arfatyahoodotcom and I will send you a copy. The other filters that folks have suggested didn't have and good specs to study.

Steve