What makes the Autococker such a Great Gun?

[HyperSnyper]

Hello all,

I was just holding my bro's Cocker, dry firing it around the house, then it really made me wonder...

What quality's make the Auctococker such a great gun?

When we both have time to play, it seems like a good gun on the field. Its used by many pro players. In terms of recoil, I can see why its better than the average blowback.

But what else? I have asked my local store owners and even alot of online store owners. They all told me the Cocker will always be a tourney level gun because it is one of the most consistent guns and shoot flatter than all other guns.

But I have also seen Mags, Spyders, Impulses, even GT 2000's get a +/- 1 or 2 at times. The closed bolt vs open bolt myth has been dispelled. And many guns have been tuned to be more consistent than the Cocker. The LP myth has been dispelled as well.

So what about the Cocker makes it a good gun. I am in NO WAY dissing Cockers, I just want to know the hard cold fact evidence what makes it good. He may plan to sell the Cocker for a cheap Electro instead.

Let me know all.

-Hyper

P.S. I know this is a Mag forum, and I should actually be asking in the Cocker forum, but if I did post there, I would get biased answers, and they would just repeat the false qualities like LP and closed bolt. I find this forum to be very reliable and true with their answers. Thx in advance guys.

[MrAirgunRT]

And here you expect not to get mag-biased answers?

[Spaceman613]

They can be made extremely efficient, and they are very customizable. A person can make their cocker very personal thru anno, milling, and pneumatics. Some other guns dont have that quality.

As for flatter? thats BS

They will remain a tourney gun as long as Bud sponsors teams.

And Yes I shoot cockers, but I had to pay for mine. I also shoot Plamer guns and old sheridans, and a phantom....

[cphilip]

GGTF!

Otherwise known as "Gadget Geek Thrill Factor". Cool wizbang moving stuff. Hypmo-tizin wizzing moving wonders. Can be made to look cool with lots of colors and milling and they just beg to be messed with. When they work they are great. Leave em alone and they work until they wear out of tolerance. Then you get to mess with em some more. Pretty nice markers for the type of personality they encourage.

[Cha0tic]

the moving back blocks hypnotize me....until it smacks me in the mask b/c i don't have a beavertail...

[FeelTheRT]

it's because of customability. Since there are so many parts on the cocker, there are so many different brand of parts you can get. You can get certain parts for a very fast Autococker. You can get correct parts for a super accurate Cocker, ect.

Autocockers tend to be very consistant over the chrono and since it is a closed bolt, its easier to shoot more accurate because of the very little kick. Also it almost never breaks balls down the barrel due to it being closed bolt, so it's not a little bolt pounding it into the barrel before being fired.

With correct LP setup, the gun is extreamly gas efficant and unable to chop balls.

[PBpunk]

ready for the real reason? the back block moves. you can hipnotize opponents with it then shoot em in the googles. "i cant help it its so beautiful.....wack!
its suppose to be a secret so do tell

and another reason is some good players (who like to mess with their markers) have them (cause they are customizable) and then every one wants one cause they saw a pro with one. the reason i really like mine cause i love to take it apart make all the pieces shiny then grease em up and put em back and its more fun doing that on an cocker then most other guns. also i like it cause you can adjust every aspect of the whole operation of the marker. that IMO is why its a good gun not cause it shoots better, because it doesnt. but what other gun has a little thing on the back that moves back and forth.

[HyperSnyper]

Originally posted by MrAirgunRT
And here you expect not to get mag-biased answers?

I dont expect to get Mag biased answers, I did not ask "Whats batter? Cocker or Mag?" No, I asked what the good qualities of the Cocker are.

And I dont expect Mag biased answers. Compare the answers on this forum vs other Cocker biased forums on the Cocker vs Mag debate. Over here they say both guns are good, its a matter of preference. This forum gives true fact on both guns, and are not biased. Heck, there are even Cocker owners and other non-Mag owners who post here regularly.

-Hyper

[Ityl]

tinkering and customization...and rumors "myths", people still think some guns shoot "harder" than others.

[HyperSnyper]

Originally posted by FeelTheRT
it's because of customability. Since there are so many parts on the cocker, there are so many different brand of parts you can get. You can get certain parts for a very fast Autococker. You can get correct parts for a super accurate Cocker, ect.

Autocockers tend to be very consistant over the chrono and since it is a closed bolt, its easier to shoot more accurate because of the very little kick. Also it almost never breaks balls down the barrel due to it being closed bolt, so it's not a little bolt pounding it into the barrel before being fired.

With correct LP setup, the gun is extreamly gas efficant and unable to chop balls.

I beleive you on the gas effieciency part of the Cocker. My brother gets an insane amount of shots off even a 20 oz tank vs my 68/3K. However, I dont agree with the closed bolt giving it better accuarcy.

I d believe that many ppl get the Cocker many because of the hype. It a great performing gun, but many people will get it because many experienced players get it, many pros get it, so the consumer will get it. Now since that consumer has bought it, it will add to the cocker population making others want to buy it.

Exponential growth due to hype.

I do beleive that there is very little kick in the gun. but then again, electros have little kick also.

Any other qualities?

Feel. You traded your Mag for a Cocker, what were your reasons?

-Hyper

[pumpamatic]

The one thing I will always like over a classic mag about the cocker is how you can make a short, smooth trigger pull.
I've never owned one but that's the one reason I might. Other than that I'll keep my classic, I have yet to try a retro.

[liigod]

cockers have awesome trigger pulls, not much kick, can be set up so they can not chop a ball. Stock chop way less than a mag if u know how to pull the trigger. They are well balenced. There are a million upgrades you can use to make it to your likeing. They are adjustable up the wazoo. They are more acurate than most guns will ever be (angels) stock. They are fixable if there is ever a problem there isnt really anythign that u cant fix yourself or a local airsmith cant fix. They are amazingly well priced for what they aer. With hinge triggers u can fire as fast as any supersemi.. well atleast i can, and everyone ive seen with one. Instant messange me some time and ill tell u more. my aim name is LiiGoD.

[AllAmericanMag]

I shouldn't have read this thread, now I want a 'Cocker.

[FeelTheRT]

Originally posted by HyperSnyper

FeelTheRT. You traded your Mag for a Cocker, what were your reasons?

Well, I just wanted to try something new and have some expirience with it. Acutally why i really traded was because i wanted to trade this Cocker for an Angel a while back but after i opened the box and saw my new gun... i just couldn't let go of it. Now it's been around half a year and i've acutally spent some money myself to add some more upgrades to suite my taste. It's a great gun when it's working, i dun think i'm ever going to sell this .

[Cardinal_Biggles]

One thing...

One performance bonus that most people don't consider is that with closed-bolt guns you can shoot one shot at a time upside-down . I've popped a few surprised people that way with my bro's cocker.