Revolutionary New AGD Tank Reg !

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  • going_home
    Hebrews 13:8

    • Dec 2004
    • 8343

    #1

    Revolutionary New AGD Tank Reg !

    If Sir Tom Kaye (yes he should be knighted) were to decide to make a new
    tank reg (since Flatline parts are becoming scarce) who would want one ?

    How many would you buy at say $75.00 - $100.00 each ?

    What features would you like for it to have ?

    I would say adjustable with system bleed if its direct mount.

    Is direct mount or screw in preferred ?

    Ideas....comments ?

    Multiple votes opened.
    This is a wish thread guys, thats all.
    72
    Screw in 1000PSI+ input
    0%
    18
    Direct mount adjustable input with system bleed
    0%
    23
    I'll buy at least one
    0%
    19
    I wont buy any
    0%
    12
  • M98Punk
    NYOG President
    • Nov 2002
    • 656

    #2
    Are there plans to make one or are you just spreading hype from your tractor?
    Girls are no substatute of paintball

    Murphy's law of paintball: If it jams force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyways

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    • captian pinky
      Bearded Works

      • Oct 2004
      • 2755

      #3
      i think direct mount would be awesome as long as something was designed to eaily swap it from gun to gun.

      bleed and adjustable is a must.

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      • hill160881
        fire power my friends

        • Jun 2008
        • 1156

        #4
        AGD release a new product? Never going to happen.
        Fire power my friends.

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        • Justus
          Justech.us

          • Nov 2010
          • 1515

          #5
          I've not understood the desire for a direct mount tank considering the availability of screw-in models with awesome features. The adjustable Ninja regs come to mind first, and then there's some other options like my NitroDuck iReg. All you have to do is screw these onto an on/off asa with bleed (such as a CP direct mount ASA) and you're set. It's almost fool-proof, and best of all it's versatile.

          If AGD were to get back into new innovations, I'd rather the first step to be some other project like any mentioned in the "improvements" thread.

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          • vf-xx
            Henchmen Inc.
            • Nov 2001
            • 3311

            #6
            Originally posted by Justus
            I've not understood the desire for a direct mount tank considering the availability of screw-in models with awesome features. The adjustable Ninja regs come to mind first, and then there's some other options like my NitroDuck iReg. All you have to do is screw these onto an on/off asa with bleed (such as a CP direct mount ASA) and you're set. It's almost fool-proof, and best of all it's versatile.

            If AGD were to get back into new innovations, I'd rather the first step to be some other project like any mentioned in the "improvements" thread.
            The general benefit for a direct mount reg over a screw in, is that most direct mounts are adjustable. Meaning that you can tweak the output pressure 'on the fly' instead of having to vent the tank and disassemble the reg to change pressure.

            I"d be interested to see one, but honestly unless it had a built in LPR as well, I'm not seeing it. My geddon works just fine, and I like the two part design.
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            • Frizzle Fry
              AO Micromag Guy
              • Mar 2009
              • 3280

              #7
              Originally posted by Justus
              I've not understood the desire for a direct mount tank considering the availability of screw-in models with awesome features. The adjustable Ninja regs come to mind first, and then there's some other options like my NitroDuck iReg. All you have to do is screw these onto an on/off asa with bleed (such as a CP direct mount ASA) and you're set. It's almost fool-proof, and best of all it's versatile.

              If AGD were to get back into new innovations, I'd rather the first step to be some other project like any mentioned in the "improvements" thread.
              Have you ever even used a flatline tank reg? Or any direct mount reg for that matter?

              I tend to use Ninja and Myth regs on my non-mag markers but there's no comparing a screw-in regulator to a well made adjustable direct mount when you're shooting a mag. I have yet to encounter any screw-in reg that's as consistent as a Flatline, nor have I found an adjustable screw-in reg that's actually "adjustable" not just "rebuildable for different output pressures". Sure they're versatile in the sense that you can use them on any marker, but they just barely meet the needs of an automag.

              With an RT valve an easily adjusted tank output just makes sense; being able to knock down from 1000+ PSI to around 800 PSI without disassembling your reg and re-organizing tiny shims on the field is distinctly beneficial to the player - it might not matter with most conventional markers where you need a relatively precise input pressure to operate the marker, but with a mag it's a completely different story; the marker will shoot at 800 without RTing and at 1100 with the RT effect.

              I don't think any experienced mag shooter would argue against the use of a direct-mount regulator, especially an adjustable one.

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              • captian pinky
                Bearded Works

                • Oct 2004
                • 2755

                #8
                Agreed with the above statement. The only thing that has come close that I used is the Oregon but I stripped the fill nipple out. So that was done.

                Nothing has come close to my flatline ad far as durability adjustability. The only thing I wish it was easier to move from gun to gun.

                Whatever Tom Kaye makes he will be thinking of the automag as well as other markers because he know we are guys and will have more than one type of gun.

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                • Ratt
                  I Beta-tested your girl...
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 883

                  #9
                  If AGD built a new reg, I don't think I would care too much as to whether or not it was screw-in or direct-mount. I would buy one (maybe two) for the simple fact that it was designed by TK. Call me a fan-boy...whatever. If TK made it, and it is being sold, that means it is going to work like it was designed to. Count me in.

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                  • robertsr1811
                    Long time Lurker

                    • Sep 2003
                    • 338

                    #10
                    Screw in for me. I have WAY too many guns.

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                    • Justus
                      Justech.us

                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1515

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                      Have you ever even used a flatline tank reg? Or any direct mount reg for that matter?
                      Honestly, no. My markers have either already had ASAs on them or have been set up for remote use. Maybe I don't know what I'm missing, I'll be the first to admit that, but a direct mount tank just isn't appealing to me because it seems too restrictive - too specialized.

                      Originally posted by vf-xx
                      The general benefit for a direct mount reg over a screw in, is that most direct mounts are adjustable. Meaning that you can tweak the output pressure 'on the fly' instead of having to vent the tank and disassemble the reg to change pressure.
                      Now this I did not understand, and it does make sense why someone would want an adjustable "on the fly" reg. I can see that there may be some efficiency benefits of adjusting the reg on the fly, but it sounds too complicated to make these types of adjustments on the field while playing. Maybe between games, but I don't see myself trying it on the field. Also, I want to be able to use a single tank and switch out markers at will. For that reason, a direct mount seems too cumbersome to me. That's just my opinion. I'm admittedly not an experienced mag shooter. But we're talking about something that would have to be marketed to more than just experienced mag shooters, right?

                      I'd still like to see anything in the "improvements" thread done by AGD in priority over this. You know, as long as we're dealing in wishful thinking.

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                      • OPBN
                        OldPBNoob

                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5240

                        #12
                        I have both screw in fixed output tanks and a couple of adjustable direct/rail/drop mount and honestly find myself using the screw in more often than not. Easier to switch from marker to marker. I haven't actually used either of my adjustable reg'd tanks for anything other than teching lately.
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                        • Chronobreak
                          Rec Poster
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5055

                          #13
                          don't bother...

                          why you ask?

                          it is going to be near impossible for agd to compete with a company like ninja that not only makes quality products but can make them spec'd to whatever psi out that you want.

                          i have already made the swap to ninja/psi regs for all my guns.

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                          • vf-xx
                            Henchmen Inc.
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 3311

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Justus
                            Now this I did not understand, and it does make sense why someone would want an adjustable "on the fly" reg. I can see that there may be some efficiency benefits of adjusting the reg on the fly, but it sounds too complicated to make these types of adjustments on the field while playing. Maybe between games, but I don't see myself trying it on the field. Also, I want to be able to use a single tank and switch out markers at will. For that reason, a direct mount seems too cumbersome to me. That's just my opinion. I'm admittedly not an experienced mag shooter. But we're talking about something that would have to be marketed to more than just experienced mag shooters, right?
                            Yes, you misunderstand my point. Probably because I didn't make it well. I didn't mean on the field, but I did mean in-between games and/or in the chrono station.

                            I can take my mag during set-up and use the adjustment to fine tune the pressure EXACTLY where I want it. Shimmed screw in tanks get you in the ballpark of where you want to be, but don't offer the same level of fine tuning that a truly adjustable tank does.

                            Does that make more sense?
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                            • Justus
                              Justech.us

                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1515

                              #15
                              Yeah, so it's more of an analog adjustment. I realize that, I just don't like the tradeoff. Put that ability on a screw-in reg and I'm sold. lol

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