Revolutionary New AGD Tank Reg !

[captian pinky]

i think that people are not thinking of a couple of things.

one if tom were to produce a new reg and it were to be a direct mount it would have a way to switch to several different guns similar to the data pimp drop. there have been things in the past that allow you to turn off the air, pull a pin and switch to another gun easy as that.

people are so focused on the idea that ninja has of the 1100 + reg is all you need. well what about the people that want a little bounce here and there and not run threw paint. here is where the adjustablility comes in. i want to be able to switch my tank from my mag to my series 6 drop the pressure to where i want it with out changing pistons or shims or bleeding the tank. i think that there is a market for this especially if ninja found one. people are becoming smarter about mags. understanding why mags bounce what it takes to make one do so. this is also something that is leading more people to them the fact that you can make them shoot how you want. i think that if tom kaye were to incorporate the following it would be amazing.

adjustability up to 1200ish
no shims,pistons,bleeding
a way to change the tank to multiple guns (screw in or a quick bracket)

no matter what he is thinking it will be amazing

[OPBN]

no matter what he is thinking it will be amazing

This is a wish thread guys, thats all.

[OneSelfLost]

Screw in type with a hex screw in the side to adjust the pressure

[Frizzle Fry]

Screw in type with a hex screw in the side to adjust the pressure

Much easier said than done.




Anyway, Justus, there are options for a "fast removal" direct mount reg, you just need a cradle with a pull pin (or pull pins) and an on/off with a quick-connect fitting after it... You'd put a cradle on each of your mags and hardline with the opposite quick connect fitting at the end. When you want to switch tanks, you turn the tank off, drain the hose, and switch the tank to the other marker. There's no need to bleed the tank or take the reg apart.

Most of us have designated "mag" tanks anyway - either factory set to 900+ psi or modified and re-shimmed to a higher output. You'd be hard pressed to find any maggot who has one tank with one reg that they constantly drain, disassemble and re-shim for their other markers. The fact of the matter is that most modern electros want <300psi, and almost every blowback runs best at 600-700psi which is the minimum needed to run an automag effectively. To get even a little bit of the RT effect you want at least a 950psi output.

Here's a breakdown of how you adjust each tank, respectively:

Screw-In:
1) remove tank from marker
2) drain tank
3) disassemble regulator
4) re-shim regulator (tedious)
5) fill tank and test output with asa/gauge tool
6a) if accurate (rare) fill tank and use
6b) if in need of adjustment (usually is) repeat steps 2-5 until accurate
7) install on marker
8) adjust velocity with AIR valve
9) get back on the field and play

Direct Mount Adjustable:
1) check output pressure on gauge
2) adjust output pressure as needed with AIR-style tank valve
3) adjust velocity with AIR valve
4) get back on the field and play

[Justus]

What's the adjustment range on a Flatline? How low does it go?

I've only got one tank, set at 1000 psi. But all I'm shooting is my X-valved Tac One and occasionally switching to a blow-back Tippmann. I'm not switching out to a low-pressure electro marker, so the one tank serves all my needs. But, in order to do that, it's got to be a screw-in type. I know it's "easier said than done" to make an adjustable screw-in tank reg, but since this is a wish thread about a new tank reg, that's my wish.

[Frizzle Fry]

It sounds like you have no need for an adjustable regulator, honestly. I mean, you could get one and install whatever quick-connect device/cradle is made for the new regulator on both your Tippmann and your Tac One, but if your current tank works your current tank works. This thread, I'm guessing, is more geared towards multiple-mag owners or players who are looking to fine-tune or disable the RT effect at the field.

[Justus]

Well that's true. With my current setup it's like a Ronco infomercial - I just set it and forget it. Although I do like to tinker with things, I probably wouldn't mess with the reg very much. But still, if a TK innovation caused all other features to be the same, then if I had the choice between direct mount or screw-in, I'd choose a screw-in type reg.

[Courgar Hunter]

I like the direct mounts way more but I would add a rail to it so that way if you need to switch guns it's alot faster then having to worry about frame screws.

I run rails on evrything makes it so much faster that way I don't have to buy so many on/offs plus the wife hates me spending money.

[malJohann]

So, what you're saying is you want an Air America Abaddon that's maybe smaller? It's adjustable, light, has input and output guages, is adjustable on the fly and mounts to a rail.

[EDIT] Oh, it also has an On/Off with system bleed and some other features. http://www.airgunuk.demon.co.uk/armageddon.htm [/EDIT]

[vf-xx]

So, what you're saying is you want an Air America Abaddon that's maybe smaller? It's adjustable, light, has input and output guages, is adjustable on the fly and mounts to a rail.

[EDIT] Oh, it also has an On/Off with system bleed and some other features. http://www.airgunuk.demon.co.uk/armageddon.htm [/EDIT]

Holy moly, How did I never hear about this one? I would love to have that setup. I like my old Armageddon, but this looks like a very good improvement.

[mpsd]

If Sir Tom Kaye (yes he should be knighted) were to decide to make a new
tank reg (since Flatline parts are becoming scarce) who would want one ?

How many would you buy at say $75.00 - $100.00 each ?

What features would you like for it to have ?

I would say adjustable with system bleed if its direct mount.

Is direct mount or screw in preferred ?

Ideas....comments ?

Multiple votes opened.
This is a wish thread guys, thats all.

Honestly, there are very good regs on the market today being sold under $50 (Ninja, for example). Of course any product Tom releases will be extremelly good and well built, to say the least. That being said, whatever he does would either have to:

- Have a competitive price in todays market
- Have a bunch of new features, like others have already sugested, to justify that price level

I'm saying that considering he would like to achieve a good market share (sale a hole lot of them). If, in the other hand, he wants to stay in a niche, selling smaller quantities with happy customers, then wathever he does will achieve that goal as he already has a pretty well established fan group (myself included, of course).

[Rudz]

So, what you're saying is you want an Air America Abaddon that's maybe smaller? It's adjustable, light, has input and output guages, is adjustable on the fly and mounts to a rail.

[EDIT] Oh, it also has an On/Off with system bleed and some other features. http://www.airgunuk.demon.co.uk/armageddon.htm [/EDIT]

I've never seen one of those, that's awesome


How come Air America never sold those in the U.S. ??

[hill160881]

Because there was something called the dyna flow that looks better and does every thing the Air America would have.

I run mine at 1100 psi and it has A bleeding on and off setup.

[68magOwner]

$75-$100?

I would MUCH sooner buy a ninja reg for $30 and be done with it.

[vf-xx]

Because there was something called the dyna flow that looks better and does every thing the Air America would have.

I run mine at 1100 psi and it has A bleeding on and off setup.

Hill, you missed something that the 'Geddon does that they Dyna doesn't. The 'Geddon is a 2 piece fixed mount reg. This means that you can unscrew your bottle like any other screw in tank (albeit with a different threading).

The front half of the reg controls the pressure, so you can set the pressure on one marker, and if you have another front mounted to another marker, set at another pressure, you can use the same tank in between markers and not have to worry about resetting the pressure.