Wedge design.

[luke]

Pros and cons will help will help.

[zondo]

For reference:

NDZ Drop kick:



Fireball Mountain Power Angel:



I think both are about at 30*.

[river031403]

my 2 cents

1. finally
2. 45 degree angle
3. direct mount to grip
4. cut for dovetail so on/off asa may slide back and forth(so it will fit inline maxflo reg)
5. i take one thanks
6. did the cad file i sent you work for you?

[luke]

[fierymartel]

Luke, I've used a wedge (NDZ Kick) for years and really like it. Bringing it up and swinging it out for snap shooting I find is much easier with the tank resting on the shoulder. I think you may need a greater angle that shortens the "pull" length when using a 68cui tank.

[zondo]

I don't have one to try, and not through my lack of looking either.

Are you going to try a couple of different angles on a couple different angle style of grip frames?

EDIT:
Might be interesting to see picks of markers shouldered with 45, 86, 90, Y, and Z grips.

[river031403]

wrist angle

aahhh mine will be used with a zgrip. I'm currently using one from FBM dont like though cuz i currently have to use a cp rail to have it work with my maxflo reg

[luke]

2. 45 degree angle

Why?

3. direct mount to grip

Is there a diffrent option?

4. cut for dovetail so on/off asa may slide back and forth(so it will fit inline maxflo reg)

They will be a dovetail mount.

5. i take one thanks

Cool.

6. did the cad file i sent you work for you?

[river031403]

i think im just gonna log off now. let me know when your done with them.

[fierymartel]

The lesser the angle, the greater the distance between the grip and shoulder. The object is to make for a tighter profile allowing you to snap quicker while staying tight by using the butt of the tank as a pivot against your shoulder. The greater the distance between the grip and shoulder, the wider your profile becomes when pivoting the marker off center one way or the other.

[fierymartel]

However, the greater the angle, the more uncomfortable it becomes in terms of the wrist. I hope this helps.

[sQuidvision]

I'll have a render for you in an hour or so... Possibly something with a bit more mass appeal.

[river031403]

However, the greater the angle, the more uncomfortable it becomes in terms of the wrist. I hope this helps.

unless you own a zgrip

[sQuidvision]

how about something adjustable?

[Ratt]

Quite frankly, I think there is very little to improve on with respect to the NDZ drop kick. I find the angle PERFECT for all my guns/setups. The design was simple, and fairly easy to install. The only problem I saw with the drop kick was that the bearings inside the drop kick were pressed in, and they were steel bearings. This meant that you could not take the bearings out and have the drop kick anodized to match your gun. And from what I was told, you can't anodize the piece an aluminum part with steel bearing still inside. So, in order to make a wedge that could be anno'd (by the user), you would either have to make the bearings out of aluminum (probably not feasible), find a way to secure the asa to the wedge without the use of setscrews and bearings, or design the wedge so you could easily remove the bearings, have it anno'd, then re-install the bearings.

If you wanted to get a little fancy with it, you could mill/engrave your own logo (if 'Luke's Customs' has a logo), or maybe the AGD logo onto the sides of the wedge... Honestly, you wouldn't have to make the thing fancy. Whatever you make, you can count me in for at least one (if not, two) wedges when you start selling.

I have tried (unsuccessfully) to find someone to take this project on. Believe me - I am THRILLED that you are taking this project on and moving forward with it.