Autocockers?

[mpsd]

Here's a nice 2003 vert feed cocker being sold for $120 OBO:

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/mechanical-semi-autos/208295-gear-closet-sell-off.html

Go down and see the blue one.

I don't really like the frame but it's a good cocker and certainly better than a Trilly.

[dboggs79]

You should be able to find a 2k or newer for $100 to $150. It'll probably be bone stock and well used. But it'll give you something to tinker with, learn the ins and outs, and see if its for you.

[Spider-TW]

3. Yes all cockers can be made into a pump all ya have to do the take the front block off and install the pump kit.

4. The main problems people run into are Year range differences for size such as Pre2K banjo bolt is smaller than the 2K+, then you have the different valve sizes, and then the different bolt sizes ranging from longest to shortest Pre2K, 2K+, EVO, Midblock, Halfblock.

When you take 3 and 4 above together, be careful about your particular model and the pump kit that you think about buying. It seems fairly common that people end up buying the wrong pump kit.

Regulated, low pressure "snipers" are very nice (they usually have lighter springs). I often forget about roll-outs when I've been playing with mags of any sort. Other than that, the consistency can be top notch.

I never have been able to bring myself to own a real autococker, but I like to watch other people shoot them.

[OPBN]

Here's a nice 2003 vert feed cocker being sold for $120 OBO:

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/mechanical-semi-autos/208295-gear-closet-sell-off.html

Go down and see the blue one.

I don't really like the frame but it's a good cocker and certainly better than a Trilly.

I saw that one, thanks. Yeah, hate the frame as well. Discussing the one that DD linked with the seller. Sounds like it was a basket case when he got it and right now its bareish metal. I don't mind reanodizing, but by the time I start doing that, costs are going to add up.


Edit: Apparently, I thought about it too long and some Canuc beat me to it on the STO. Oh well.

[Darring D]

Check this out. Looks like he is parting out an autococker. Has all the parts for sale Buy it now to make a pump. You would need a back block for either body he has for sale.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imon1maybe6/...id=p4340.l2562


The sanchez pump handle is nice, has double pump rods and comes with a back block. It will work nicely with the post 2K body he is selling. The body is milled on both sides so the 2 rods will fit.

[OPBN]

If I was building from scratch, I would probably go more for something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WGP-VF-AUTOC...item4605757bda

Besides obviously a frame, pump kit, reg/gasthru what esle is needed to make this complete? Says it has no lower tube internals....

[Darring D]

That looks like a 2003 body, nice, I have that same body as a mechanical.

you would need a Bolt, a bottle ASA/On-Off, and autococker threaded barrel.

The e-bay link I gave has lower internals for sale too!

Thats a fair price on the CCM 86* frame. only for pump, not mechanical.

That sanchez pump kit would work on it too!

[OPBN]

That looks like a 2003 body, nice, I have that same body as a mechanical.

you would need a Bolt, a bottle ASA/On-Off, and autococker threaded barrel.

The e-bay link I gave has lower internals for sale too!

Thats a fair price on the CCM 86* frame. only for pump, not mechanical.

That sanchez pump kit would work on it too!

I am strongly leaning towards pump. Is that a fair price for internals? Stupid question is the bolt included in the lower internals?

Is this what I need? http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-ANS...item4605b2a9e6

I don't see a "bolt listed.

[mpsd]

Lower internal kits don't usually include a bolt.

One thing I've learned is that if you try procuring each part individually you will most likely end up spending twice the money you thought you would. It would certainly be cheaper to buy a complete marker with a lame frame and then just change that specific part. IIRC, a nice slider 45 frame can be found for $30, including the trigger and sear.

[Darring D]

yes thats a fair price, The bolt goes in upper tube and is seperate. I know I have extra bolt, you don't need anything fancy if using it for a pump.

Those lowers are nice but it is not a Rex dialer. The rex dialer allows you to adjust your velocity at the IVG without removing the cocking rod. See here and notice the second smaller allen key that allows for velocity adjustment.

[mpsd]

One more hint. I believe this is the best Cockers forum around:

http://customcockers.com/forum/forum.php?

100% focused and with very good people there too.

[OPBN]

One more hint. I believe this is the best Cockers forum around:

http://customcockers.com/forum/forum.php?

100% focused and with very good people there too.

Thanks. I've already mentioned twice that I know about customcockers. lol. You need to read the entire thread man.

I like it here and seem to be getting decent info so far.

[Darring D]

One more hint. I believe this is the best Cockers forum around:

http://customcockers.com/forum/forum.php?

100% focused and with very good people there too.

I second this, plus they too have a great buy/sell section.

Contact KMac http://customcockers.com/forum/member.php?34-k-macocker

He has his own site with much info and pictures and tons of stuff to sell!

[mpsd]

Thanks. I've already mentioned twice that I know about customcockers. lol. You need to read the entire thread man.

I like it here and seem to be getting decent info so far.

LOL

Sorry, I admit I didn't read all the minor details. Just did a quick look over and saw that no-one linked you to CC before. My fault!!

[OPBN]

LOL

Sorry, I admit I didn't read all the minor details. Just did a quick look over and saw that no-one linked you to CC before. My fault!!

No worries. I appreciate the help.

I also agree on buying a complete marker being cheaper, but I have been looking for a few days and not really seeing anything that is exactly what I want. The argument could also be made that by building it peice by peice that I get exactly what parts I want and don't have to worry about buying a marker and swapping things out. Essentlally I want the body I linked above with an 86* frame and CCM pump kit. Doubtful I would find that exact combo without waiting for months or possibly years. I'm patient, but not that patient.