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  • Darring D
    Formally known as FIBCAPT
    • Oct 2011
    • 169

    #61
    Pre 2k pump guide rod is 3/8"-24 thread, 2K+ is 9/16"-24 thread

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    • cockerpunk
      Haters Gonna Hate
      • Sep 2004
      • 1383

      #62
      pre 2k looks like a pencil
      post 2k is more like your finger
      "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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      • GEE TEE
        jake the peg

        • Jul 2011
        • 349

        #63
        Originally posted by river031403
        I shot my gun with both set of internals/components and there is a difference.
        The biggest difference is in your wallet

        There are other internals which work just as well as CCM IMHO

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        • OPBN
          OldPBNoob

          • Sep 2008
          • 5240

          #64
          Got my body in today.Yay! Had a little more ano wear that I was expecting. Booo!. Heavier than I expected TBH.
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          • OPBN
            OldPBNoob

            • Sep 2008
            • 5240

            #65
            Update:



            Pretty much everything excepting I am waiting on an SS screw kit, slider shoes, beavertail, cocking rod, bolt pin and CP HPR. All chrome of course. Still need to find the ever elusive red Kapp 45's. Theres a guy on MCB selling red acrylic ones, may just go with those for the time being.

            Pump action is fairly smooth. Seems to be some adjustment to get the pump action to fully cock the sear, but I'll fiddle with that more then I get the HPR.

            I asked this on CC, but still havent gotten a definitive answer, but will the item below fit this body and if so, anyone here know someone that can pull the old one and put the new one in?

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            • cockerpunk
              Haters Gonna Hate
              • Sep 2004
              • 1383

              #66
              Originally posted by OPBN
              Update:



              Pretty much everything excepting I am waiting on an SS screw kit, slider shoes, beavertail, cocking rod, bolt pin and CP HPR. All chrome of course. Still need to find the ever elusive red Kapp 45's. Theres a guy on MCB selling red acrylic ones, may just go with those for the time being.

              Pump action is fairly smooth. Seems to be some adjustment to get the pump action to fully cock the sear, but I'll fiddle with that more then I get the HPR.

              I asked this on CC, but still havent gotten a definitive answer, but will the item below fit this body and if so, anyone here know someone that can pull the old one and put the new one in?

              http://paintballgateway.com/wgpauthvefep.html
              have to press out the old feedneck and put that one it.

              if you dont care about wrecking the stock feedneck, then yeah, you can do it pretty easily. remember, that part is merely the threaded portion of the feedneck that is stuck in the body, have to buy a CCM or something to go on top of that.
              "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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              • mpsd
                Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                • Nov 2005
                • 2778

                #67
                So, I have to ask. Can you let us know how much it ran you in the end?

                And how many people did you have to negotiate with in order to have all the pieces and bits for this build?

                I like how you assemble it, just got curious.


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                • Darring D
                  Formally known as FIBCAPT
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 169

                  #68
                  I see you got the parts. Evrything work okay? Nice valve tool
                  Looking good can't wait to see the final product!

                  Don't get the mag parts too close they might mix with the cocker gene pool!

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                  • Darring D
                    Formally known as FIBCAPT
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 169

                    #69
                    Originally posted by OPBN
                    Pump action is fairly smooth. Seems to be some adjustment to get the pump action to fully cock the sear, but I'll fiddle with that more then I get the HPR.
                    You can shorten the pump stroke by screwing the adjustable end of the cocking rod in. If you are going to replace the rod I I'd wait to make those final adjustments.

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                    • OPBN
                      OldPBNoob

                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5240

                      #70
                      Originally posted by mpsd
                      So, I have to ask. Can you let us know how much it ran you in the end?

                      And how many people did you have to negotiate with in order to have all the pieces and bits for this build?

                      I like how you assemble it, just got curious.

                      Probably more than I would have if I would have just bought it outright, but it would have taken me weeks or months to find exactly what I wanted. I don't mind giving a breakdown:

                      Body= $ 52
                      Lower internals, delrin bolt, bolt pin, valve tool, spare cocking rod, and Hitman mod = $ 60
                      ANS cocking rod, Beavertail, & Chrome bolt pin = $ 22 (also bought a delrin tipped, chrome WGP bolt $18. Not sure why)
                      CP Medium length Chrome HPR = $ 35
                      CCM Deluxe Pump kit = $ 40
                      Chrome Slider frame w/Kapp panels = $50 (I plan on selling the cap panels so should bring this down)
                      Slider shoes = $ 11 (shipped)
                      SS screw set = $13 (A lot of $ imo, but the guy is in Columbus and gives me someone to contact for cocker issues)

                      I already had the CP on/off and tons of fittings laying around, so those are freeish. So essentially I have $283 into it, but if I sell the Kapp panels for $25-30, it puts me down to around $250. Valve tools cost $12-15, so IMO it is considered a tool and not part of the build, so if I deduct for that, I get down to about $240 or so. IMO, not too bad considering this figure INCLUDES SHIPPING.

                      As far as people dealing with goes, it was a total of 8 including the guy on Ebay that I bought the body from and an actual online store that I got the shoes from.
                      Last edited by OPBN; 08-02-2012, 02:25 PM.
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                      • OPBN
                        OldPBNoob

                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5240

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Darring D
                        I see you got the parts. Evrything work okay? Nice valve tool
                        Looking good can't wait to see the final product!

                        Don't get the mag parts too close they might mix with the cocker gene pool!
                        I studied the parts, and a diagram for several minutes gleening how they go together. Went together fine, I have yet to air it up, so not sure if I have any leaks or not. I plan on stripping and polishing the hitman piece this afternoon. Bye bye black!
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                        • OPBN
                          OldPBNoob

                          • Sep 2008
                          • 5240

                          #72
                          Originally posted by cockerpunk
                          have to press out the old feedneck and put that one it.

                          if you dont care about wrecking the stock feedneck, then yeah, you can do it pretty easily. remember, that part is merely the threaded portion of the feedneck that is stuck in the body, have to buy a CCM or something to go on top of that.
                          I was just making sure there wasnt a year issue? I do not have faith in myself that I could accomplish this without marring up the body more than it is, so will probably see if I can find someone willing to do it that will give me some sort of guarantee that they wont fubar the ano. I know that this is just he threaded portion, but I really hate the static bucket style feedneck and don't like the milling down option much more. At least with putting this feedneck in, I could have a wider range of feednecks to choose from.

                          In hindsight I should have opted for an AC body that came with a threaded feedneck. Which ones did and didnt?
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                          • mpsd
                            Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                            • Nov 2005
                            • 2778

                            #73
                            Originally posted by OPBN
                            Probably more than I would have if I would have just bought it outright, but it would have taken me weeks or months to find exactly what I wanted. I don't mind giving a breakdown:

                            Body= $ 52
                            Lower internals, delrin bolt, bolt pin, valve tool, spare cocking rod, and Hitman mod = $ 60
                            ANS cocking rod, Beavertail, & Chrome bolt pin = $ 22 (also bought a delrin tipped, chrome WGP bolt $18. Not sure why)
                            CP Medium length Chrome HPR = $ 35
                            CCM Deluxe Pump kit = $ 40
                            Chrome Slider frame w/Kapp panels = $50 (I plan on selling the cap panels so should bring this down)
                            Slider shoes = $ 11 (shipped)
                            SS screw set = $13 (A lot of $ imo, but the guy is in Columbus and gives me someone to contact for cocker issues)

                            I already had the CP on/off and tons of fittings laying around, so those are freeish. So essentially I have $283 into it, but if I sell the Kapp panels for $25-30, it puts me down to around $250. Valve tools cost $12-15, so IMO it is considered a tool and not part of the build, so if I deduct for that, I get down to about $240 or so. IMO, not too bad considering this figure INCLUDES SHIPPING.

                            As far as people dealing with goes, it was a total of 8 including the guy on Ebay that I bought the body from and an actual online store that I got the shoes from.
                            That's what I figured. Not bad. In the end of the day, the important thing is that you have fun with your build. Don't forget to upload some pics of the final product.


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                            • OPBN
                              OldPBNoob

                              • Sep 2008
                              • 5240

                              #74
                              CP HPR came in today. Trying on these grips for size. I still want red Kapp 45's, but these may have to do. Conatacte Mike780 to see if he was still making the G-10 ones as an alternate, but haven't heard back yet:



                              Got a chance to air it up. Rigged up a fixture to preset the HPR to arounnd 300 output as suggested, screwed it back in, aired it up and voila... no leaks! First freaking time. Probably won't get a chance to check the FPS/set it until next week as I am playing tomorrow and really need to run through the 3 or 4 markers I'm taking tomorrow to make sure everything is right with them.

                              And honestly, I want to assemble the E-TAC more than I want to mess with this....

                              One thing I did notice is that I almost felt a need for a drop for this. I hate drops. Really, but as I am shouldering and dry firing this, I kept thinking how much better it would feel if the tank was dropped down a couple of inches and possibly forward. Might have to dig out my chrome flame drops that I thought I would never use.
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                              • mpsd
                                Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                                • Nov 2005
                                • 2778

                                #75
                                I really like it as it is now. Even the grips. I'd install a red trigger shoe and call it done! :)

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